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TOTW 01/08: Do you think Jack was murdered or was it an accident?

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moremojo:
Ennis definitely is paranoid, but he had good reason to be. This is something that a lot of folks who dislike Ennis for not being more courageous and taking Jack up on his offer for that sweet life seem to overlook. Ennis had actually seen homophobia at its most brutal and vicious--his own father may have been a homophobic torturer and murderer. Homophobic violence was not some hypothetical maybe in Ennis's future, but a reality in his past and a frightening possibility in his present. Ennis was paranoid, but crazy he was not.

souxi:

--- Quote from: moremojo on January 11, 2008, 02:44:48 pm ---Ennis definitely is paranoid, but he had good reason to be. This is something that a lot of folks who dislike Ennis for not being more courageous and taking Jack up on his offer for that sweet life seem to overlook. Ennis had actually seen homophobia at its most brutal and vicious--his own father may have been a homophobic torturer and murderer. Homophobic violence was not some hypothetical maybe in Ennis's future, but a reality in his past and a frightening possibility in his present. Ennis was paranoid, but crazy he was not.

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No he certainly was crazy atall, he was frightened. In one scene in the film he asked Jack if ever thought that people "knew", like they could tell when you walked down the street or went into a shop. It wasn,t just paranoia that kept him from living with Jack, it was fear.

Jeff Wrangler:

--- Quote from: souxi on January 11, 2008, 02:48:22 pm ---No he certainly was crazy atall, he was frightened. In one scene in the film he asked Jack if ever thought that people "knew", like they could tell when you walked down the street or went into a shop. It wasn,t just paranoia that kept him from living with Jack, it was fear.

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That scene has always puzzled me, and I've never really given it much thought. It's also OT for this thread, but maybe Chrissi would consider making that film scene a Topic of the Week some time?

Oh, Chrissi! You listenin', Little Darlin'!  ;D  :-*

pnwDUDE:
Simply put, Ennis thought if people knew he could be killed. He didn't think two guys could 'ranch up' and he wasn't about to move to Denver or Sanfransisco and be like 'those guys you see around'. Call him paranoid or crazy, but it is the story of Brokeback Mountain.
Today, if Jack and Ennis road up to an inner city gay bar in their truck, dressed like they are and acting/talking like they are, guys would get all hot and bothered, but once they saw that J & E wasn't a butch act they would probably make fun of em. It wouldn't take long for Jack and Ennis to know they didn't fit in and weren't welcome there.

Brad

Scott6373:

--- Quote from: bradINblue on January 11, 2008, 03:06:43 pm ---Simply put, Ennis thought if people knew he could be killed. He didn't think two guys could 'ranch up' and he wasn't about to move to Denver or Sanfransisco and be like 'those guys you see around'. Call him paranoid or crazy, but it is the story of Brokeback Mountain.
Today, if Jack and Ennis road up to an inner city gay bar in their truck, dressed like they are and acting/talking like they are, guys would get all hot and bothered, but once they saw that J & E wasn't a butch act they would probably make fun of em. It wouldn't take long for Jack and Ennis to know they didn't fit in and weren't welcome there.

Brad

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That, unfortuantely is a very true statement.

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