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Heath Ledger's Accidental Overdose - Discussion Thread (Was: Breaking News)

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opinionista:

--- Quote from: Ellemeno on February 06, 2008, 03:45:00 pm ---I DON'T think it was deliberate, but it WAS as a result of his own extreme actions.  Not quite completely accidental.  

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I can agree with that. Like I said earlier, my take is that he was trying desperately to sleep and took extreme measures. Obviously, I know absolutely nothing about his private life so it is just a theory based on what has been reported about his final days. He probably did it before and was fine the next day, so he tried again.

SFEnnisSF:

--- Quote from: atz75 on February 06, 2008, 12:10:48 pm ---The thought of that toxic cocktail of so many different drugs in his system all at once is just so upsetting to think about. 

I agree with Mel.  I feel angry at the drug industry, at irresponsible doctors, and just sort of angry at these circumstances in general. 


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Me too.  See my post above.

Verona:

--- Quote from: Ellemeno on February 06, 2008, 03:45:00 pm ---To have mixed that many is beyond imagining for me, I would be so paranoid of what they would do.

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You might not be, if you'd taken them and felt they did "nothing." That's all I'm saying.

Me, I'm the same way you are. I took half of an Ambien and felt so horrible I never did it again. The idea terrifies me. Meanwhile, my mother can take two and feel nothing. So she's not afraid of them at all. She takes so many pills that she's convinced they "do nothing" on their own, she has to take a bunch of different ones. It's crazy. I try so hard to make her stop, but she won't. She feels she knows her own body, and if they were doing her any harm, she'd feel bad physically. That's the main problem, I think. People confuse what they feel physically with the physical effect the drug actually has on their body.

Phillip Dampier:

--- Quote from: sfericsf on February 06, 2008, 03:53:16 pm ---
And I'm mad as hell about it.  >:(

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Ask your doctor if being mad as hell is right for you.   :-\

I had thought Ambien was somewhere in the mix of media reports, and it would have been interesting to see a non-generic, heavily marketed prescription drug in the mix of this as a way to really open this issue up for Americans.  A lot of folks outside of this country may not realize big pharma relentlessly advertises prescription drugs on television.  At evening network news can be up to 80% advertising for drugs, marketed by Hollywood stars or through saturation advertising (how many have seen the animated bee with the Zorro-like accent?)

In the last 10 years, lifestyle drugs are being promoted at levels that suggest to people it's perfectly normal to be taking prescription medication of all types, sizes, and dosages, for conditions nobody heard of a decade ago (do we need two expensive pharmaceuticals for "restless leg syndrome" or "urine deficiency"?)  Americans are increasingly finding it normal to have a medicine cabinet with a half dozen drugs in it.  And for "stress/anxiety," I've seen people who have been on up to 10 different kinds of them, with the leftovers still sitting on the shelf.

So I'm not that surprised by this, especially with some of the doctors catering to important people who basically give them what they want, no argument or questions asked.

Verona:

--- Quote from: Phillip Dampier on February 06, 2008, 04:02:17 pm ---Ask your doctor if being mad as hell is right for you.   :-\

I had thought Ambien was somewhere in the mix of media reports, and it would have been interesting to see a non-generic, heavily marketed prescription drug in the mix of this as a way to really open this issue up for Americans.  A lot of folks outside of this country may not realize big pharma relentlessly advertises prescription drugs on television.  At evening network news can be up to 80% advertising for drugs, marketed by Hollywood stars or through saturation advertising (how many have seen the animated bee with the Zorro-like accent?)

In the last 10 years, lifestyle drugs are being promoted at levels that suggest to people it's perfectly normal to be taking prescription medication of all types, sizes, and dosages, for conditions nobody heard of a decade ago (do we need two expensive pharmaceuticals for "restless leg syndrome" or "urine deficiency"?)  Americans are increasingly finding it normal to have a medicine cabinet with a half dozen drugs in it.  And for "stress/anxiety," I've seen people who have been on up to 10 different kinds of them, with the leftovers still sitting on the shelf.

So I'm not that surprised by this, especially with some of the doctors catering to important people who basically give them what they want, no argument or questions asked.

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The "restless leg" one says that "intense gambling or sexual urges" are a possible side effect.  :o

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