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Heath Ledger's Accidental Overdose - Discussion Thread (Was: Breaking News)
RossInIllinois:
--- Quote from: Snavel del Snork Snater Snuit on February 06, 2008, 03:24:34 pm ---And are you claiming that Heath did just that? Were you in the room with him when it happened?
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Ya Think? Well lets see. who do you think put the pills in his mouth and who swallowed them?
mvansand76:
--- Quote from: RossInIllinois on February 06, 2008, 04:12:53 pm ---Ya Think? Well lets see. who do you think put the pills in his mouth and who swallowed them?
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I'm sorry, your reply just doesn't make any sense to me.
RossInIllinois:
--- Quote from: Ellemeno on February 06, 2008, 03:04:23 pm ---Is there a report of the actual amounts, or concentrations, of these drugs in his system? I would like someone who knows how to interpret that to tell us their opinion.
My disappointment [not the right word, not sure what is, right now] now is with Heath. He was a very intelligent man, and he surely must have known some of the bare minimum info on those drugs. I know that his directors loved him, and felt a special connection with him, but to the film industry, he was a commodity required to make a money-making film, like a camera, or a microphone, or the lumber required to build a set. But even more necessary to keep working, because cameras and lumber are replaceable, and big stars are one of a kind. So a film industry that wants to pull in the money would keep him working, and commodify him. Very short-sighted, but raking money in often is these days.
So I don't really hold the set doctors or any other doctors too responsible here. It was up to Heath to act responsibly for his own safety and well-being.
Heath was young (and thus possibly still in the "I'm immortal" stage), extremely fit and physically courageous ("I can handle this, I'd like to try."). He was highly creative and brimming with ideas he wanted to accomplish (the music videos, managing Grace Woodroofe, preparing to direct The Queen's Gambit, and who knows what, besides the films he was acting in). He was pining for his daughter (and I believe that was agony for him). He was crossing many time zones frequently (which is extremely depleting and confounding). He was without a girlfriend (and I think he's demonstrated that he is happiest when in a relationship).
I can't imagine the stress he lived with. I wish he could have found a balance between that time two years ago when he was self-reportedly just making lunch, washing the lunch dishes, making dinner, taking care of his girls, and the supersonic, hyper-paced life he had been living recently.
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You have to hold the abuser responsible. Also the Abusers Loved ones. This is why Brittney Spears was committed because an abuser has no clue of what they are doing. They just want to get high on what ever they have at hand. When someone like Heath is on set he has access to the company Dr that will perscribe meds for the talent. When you are on multiple movies there are multiple Dr's and that means multiple drugs. This added to maybe his regular Dr's perscriptions can equal a deadly cocktail. The abuser is responsible for his own actions no one else. This is why Brittney Spears had to be committed. It's to bad Heath didn't have people in his inner circle that cared more about him.
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: Verona on February 06, 2008, 04:10:54 pm ---The "restless leg" one says that "intense gambling or sexual urges" are a possible side effect. :o
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:-X
And not too very long ago you weren't even allowed to advertise prescription medications on television. :-\
ednbarby:
Does it matter whether he meant to or not? If he did mean to, it's because he was deeply depressed and his doctors were completely incompetent. (Nowhere on that list is an SSRI or even a MAOI anti-depressant.) If he didn't, what does it matter if he took them all at once or at different times throughout the previous 12 hours?
He's gone. Way too soon. As Leslie said, any way you look at it, it's a tragedy.
I can't believe that even we here can't leave him alone. If we're going to bicker about whether he "did it to himself or not," we're as bad as the media.
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