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Heath Ledger's Accidental Overdose - Discussion Thread (Was: Breaking News)
moremojo:
--- Quote from: Snavel del Snork Snater Snuit on February 08, 2008, 11:15:22 am ---Wow, what an amazingly insightful post. Thank you so much Soluki... Welcome to Bettermost...
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I concur...these are very wise words.
louisev:
We all know and talk about Heath and mine the news for details because we care about him, and I, like the majority of folks here, care about him because he played a role in his career that captivated us - the role of Ennis del Mar. There is no doubt that we are all disappointed in his death, in the main because we will not get to see him in any future roles once the films he made are produced and shown. But also because we have come to care about Ennis, and we came to care about Heath.
And we all handle it a different way, but there are common threads of protectiveness, frustration, sadness, grief, and anger, and for some of us, and for some of the press, the anger takes precedence, but please let's take a step back and try not to step on each other's grief.
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: Verona on February 08, 2008, 11:33:49 am ---On my local news yesterday morning, when they did the "In the Papers" segment and held up the Post to show another article, and I saw that Andrea Peyser article in the corner. I put these things together in my head. NY Post. Andrea Peyser. Celebrity death. Those three factors, both alone and in tandem, said to me "IGNORE."
Which is exactly what I now intend to do here. If I wanted to read this kind of crap, I'd go back to the imdb board. Some people, like Ms. Peyser and her ilk, think cynicism about celebrities makes them look cool, smart and in-the-know, and the schadenfreude they display over the death over a decent, talented young man is sickening. For any happy, well-adjusted person, there is no glee or satisfaction over another person's unhappiness/death. But for others, it's the only glee and satisfaction they know how to derive from life. It's how they can finally feel superior to someone they previously considered superior to themselves. "Hahaha, well Mr. Handsome, Famous, Talented Movie Star wasn't so perfect after all, was he? HAHAHA, gotcha!! Well at least I'm still alive, sucker! Now maybe you'll all see that I'm just as good as these celebrities... even better!! Pick me, not them!!"
Sad. Pathetic and sad.
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Very well expressed, Verona, and dead-on accurate, I'd be willing to bet!
ednbarby:
Yep. Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down. That's the vast majority of the media for you. "It's interesting when people die - we need dirty laundry." There was a song way ahead of its time (or maybe not - maybe just timeless).
The whole lot of them, with the exception of journalists like Keith Olbermann, Dan Abrams, and my God, even Joe Scarborough - who stand up and fight when what the rest of them do is hateful, self-serving, and WRONG - can go straight to Hell. And contrary to their popular opinion, they won't be finding Heath there.
Soluki:
By no means was I implying that the manner in which different people experience the same event is either wrong or right, good or bad.
Nothing is inherently anything. People, things and any phenomena do not exist solely because they do. There is only emptiness that is filled by causes and conditions both present and past, which if we take the time to view these phenomena in this whole way, then we realize that it is our own afflicted emotional response that causes us distress.
To not view the event of Heath Ledger's death from a "whole picture" stance means that realism is lost and liberation from our afflictive emotions can never be gained. Grief in and of itself is not bad or good. As we grieve, we must ask ourselves what we are grieving for. Acquisition of knowledge is not going to change our understanding of this event. It will only serve to support us in our misconceived views, and give credence to our afflicted emotional response.
The apprehension of inherent existence is the cause of all unhealthy views. Afflictive emotions are not produced without this error. Therefore, when emptiness is thoroughly known, unhealthy views and afflictive emotions are thoroughly purified.
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