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TOTW 05/08: What do you make of the "Maybe Texas?" scene?

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Penthesilea:

--- Quote from: THE WINGS on February 22, 2008, 12:05:31 pm ---Jake Gyllenhaal made an interesting comment regarding the scene immediately after "The Dozy Embrace" where we see the older Jack standing  and watching Ennis drive away, for, unbeknown to him, what was to have been the last time.  Jake said something to the effect that 'that's when Jack died'.  Of course this would refer to Jack's inner feelings, and finally coming to the conclusion that it was extemely unlikely for he and Ennis to ever be together permanently.  I noticed this quote on the findingbrokeback.com site in the section showing all the dvd captures of the various filming locations.
Certainly a very interesting and thought-provoking comment from the man who not only turned in an outstanding perfomance but had in effect BECOME Jack Twist throughout this wonderful film.

--- End quote ---

I might be totally wrong, but I think this was said in regard to the post-divorce scene, not the moment they parted for the last time.
Can someone help me out here?

Artiste:
Thanks!


--- Quote ---  Jake said something to the effect that 'that's when Jack died'.   
--- End quote ---

Is that what was said?


Hugs!

Jeff Wrangler:
Well, I never did get around to throwing in my two cents on this topic--after being one of the persons to suggest it!  :laugh: So, being a day--a week?--late and a dollar short, I'll be brief, and here it is, "for what it's worth."

This is where I play devil's advocate to my own understanding of Ennis, or maybe this scene is the exception to prove my understanding to me. I've always understood Ennis to be very much out of touch with his feelings--until the end, when it's too late--and deeply in denial and self-deluding about his sexual orientation. Yet in this scene it's difficult to escape the conclusion that he's perfectly congnizant that he's gay.

When he asks Jack about people on the street looking like "they know," it seems illogical to me for him to think that they might know just, specifically, that he has sex with Jack--even I've never felt Ennis was that paranoid. No, it just seems simpler and more logical that he means that he thinks "they" look like "they know" that he's gay--which means that he understands that he's gay.

It's funny, though. As time passes, my understanding of the film seems to be growing closer to my understanding of the short story.  :-\

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