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TOTW 08/08: What if they had lived together? Would Ennis's fears have allowed a

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Front-Ranger:
Very interesting, Marcia! This bears out my own personal experiences. On my latest trip to Wyoming, I wore a favourite shirt that said "Brokeback BBQ 2007" on it. One of my travelling companions was nervous when he saw me wearing it, when I finally got the chance to take my coat off at the Crazy Woman Cafe in Ten Sleep. But nobody there paid me any mind.

elomelo:

--- Quote from: Marge_Innavera on March 13, 2008, 10:20:33 am ---And Lightning Flat might have been more realistic financially -- I'm not sure that Jack's father-in-law would really have given him enough of a bribe to buy a ranch, but whatever Jack got could have been put to good use buying materials for the cabin and for the ranch generally.  Jack's father would have been an obstacle.  But in Ennis' visit, he seems more troubled by the fact that the ranch is going downhill than about his son's relationship with the man he keeps talking about, and if Ennis and Jack had their own living quarters and were at the house only occasionally, that might help. And once there were some noticeable improvements at the ranch, it's still unlikely that he'd give them any blessing but IMO he would have been able to live with it. 


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Good point!

And the location of Lightning Flat is really out in the middle of nowhere so Ennis would probably feel more comfortable living way out there instead of in the city.

Yeah, OMT does really seem more bothered about his failing ranch and it's quite apparent he knows of Jack's sexuality, so even if he were to be a complete prick, he'd let Ennis live on the ranch as long as he pulled his own weight and helped out. But Ennis's respect for OMT...hmm, though it was never shown in the movie, Jack tells Ennis of the incident where his father humiliates him and pees on him when he was barely four years old would give Ennis to hate the man's guts.

Ma Twist might be more welcoming as she knows what Jack meant to Ennis and seemed happy to have Ennis over, and asks him to visit them often. Though she didn't stop Twist Sr's abuse on her son, she loved him and would have wanted him to be happy, no matter who with.

Marge_Innavera:

--- Quote from: elomelo on March 14, 2008, 01:54:03 pm ---Yeah, OMT does really seem more bothered about his failing ranch and it's quite apparent he knows of Jack's sexuality, so even if he were to be a complete prick, he'd let Ennis live on the ranch as long as he pulled his own weight and helped out. But Ennis's respect for OMT...hmm, though it was never shown in the movie, Jack tells Ennis of the incident where his father humiliates him and pees on him when he was barely four years old would give Ennis to hate the man's guts.
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Well, hating an in-law's guts would give Ennis something in common with quite a few married people since the beginning of steaming time.....   ;D

elomelo:

--- Quote from: Marge_Innavera on March 14, 2008, 04:13:28 pm ---Well, hating an in-law's guts would give Ennis something in common with quite a few married people since the beginning of steaming time.....   ;D

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 ;D ;D ;D

elomelo:
Doesn't hating the father in-law or not being in good terms with the father in-law usually what men do as fathers are most protective of their daughters? Just a thought and besides, Jack isn't a woman. Then again, this point would be good leverage to get Ennis to ranch up with him.

Now I'm just musing out loud  :)

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