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Why the Lie?
David:
Oh most definately it was referring to Masturbating. Think of how the word was used in the book. "I must have wrang it out a hundred times thinking about you".
Doesn't everyone fantasize about their dream partner when playing with themselves? ;)
Brown Eyes:
Oh wow, this conversation is taking an interesting turn.
Well, the thing that struck me in that list of definitions is how often the word twist is used in relation to the words wring/ wrang. One more indication of what's on Ennis's mind...
And I totally agree with David. This may be one of the few concepts in the book that isn't ambiguous... at least in how I read it.
welliwont:
--- Quote from: Aussie Chris on May 26, 2006, 02:04:20 am ---Huh? Was there a discussion on this that I missed? How is it that we can tell Ennis is thinking of Jack while spreading tar and at the drive-in? I just about agree with everything you see in the film, but this one (particularly the drive-in) escapes me. Was it on TOB?
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Hey Chris: What is TOB? The Other Board?? please confirm or explain... Here is one more explanation that I read on IMDb two days ago: The boy in the film is telling the pretty little blonde girl that it is illegal to park their trailer, ie: camp on the beach, and that is reminiscent of the illegal camping that Aguirre insisted that the herder do up on Brokeback. Do you think that is too obscure?
The reason we believe that Ennis is thinking of Jack when he is tarring, is who in their right mind would not be reminiscing and pining for last summer's peaceful idylic job up with his buddy Jack? Versus being teamed up with *such* a blabbermouth, man! -- if I had to listen to him all day! And plus the fact the the guy says "broke back".
nakymaton:
I think a lot of the phrases in the story have multiple meanings, just like a lot of lines in the movie do. So, yeah, "wrang it out" and "rolled his own" and "stemmed the rose" had particular meanings in colloquial Wyoming speech in the 60's, but in the context of the story, in the hotel room that "stank of semen," there's sex in just about everything those guys say.
David:
--- Quote from: nakymaton on May 28, 2006, 10:06:20 am ---I think a lot of the phrases in the story have multiple meanings, just like a lot of lines in the movie do. So, yeah, "wrang it out" and "rolled his own" and "stemmed the rose" had particular meanings in colloquial Wyoming speech in the 60's, but in the context of the story, in the hotel room that "stank of semen," there's sex in just about everything those guys say.
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Now see, I interpeted the "Roll your own" comment to mean picking up a cowboy.
Ennis says :"How about you?"
Jacks replies:" I've been riding the bulls, not rolling my own".
So I figure he means he's been too busy riding real bulls in the rodeo, not in the the bars trying to pick up a bull (cowboy) of his own! Which we know is a lie, as he doesn't want to make Ennis jealous.
Just like when Jack tries to pickup the Rodeo clown in the bar. The bartender sees Jack get rejected. So when the Bartender then says :" Ever try Calf roping?" I take that he is telling Jack "try sticking to picking up girls"
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