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delalluvia:

--- Quote from: tiawahcowboy on May 28, 2006, 11:50:25 pm ---Tia is not short for "Tiawah," place in Rogers County, Oklahoma!
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Tia is the way I shorten it.  ;D


--- Quote ---Since I am a man and not a woman, I ought to know a little bit more about how guys think and what they do more than you do, ma'am!
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Well, sure, but that doesn't make you an authority on how ALL men think, now does it?


--- Quote ---One does not have to masturbate when one thinks about having had memorable sex with his friend, nor does he have to masturbate while trying to figure out why the only person he can imagine having sex with is that friend.
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No, he doesn't have to, but he most certainly could and very likely did.

starboardlight:

--- Quote from: latjoreme on May 27, 2006, 05:05:45 pm ---I love it too, and since for once I can actually remember someone to credit, let me add that it was Casey Cornelius' thread. (I think starboardlight may have participated also.) I was so blown away by it because it was still fairly early in my Brokeback career. Before that, I had seen that tar-spreading scene as pretty much just a quick way to what kind of jobs Ennis was taking over the years. And when they started pointing to all the little clues about what this or that meant, I felt like a whole new world was opening up (and like my time on the board should qualify me for a graduate degree in film studies!).

By the way, I remember one funny line from that discussion. This time I can't remember who said it (maybe jshane?) but anyway. Someone said Ennis was probably thinking about Jack when he stared off into the distance, and the other person said, "Are you kidding? I'M thinking about Jack when I stare off into the distance. There's no doubt he is!"


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yeah, Casey started some beautifully insightful threads. I didn't really take part in the tar-spreading thread, but I did have one post in the Drive-In movie thread.

Here's a link to the thread in our archive.

http://www.geocities.com/bbmarchive/surfparty.html

We started discussion why "Surf Party" was chosen and why that scene in the movie in particular. Read through for some interesting theory. But yeah, it seemed to be a consensus that it recalled many of the early Jack and Ennis moments. I suggested that it was a contrast with the opening scenes. In the film, the guy and girl introduced themselves as she comes out of the trailer, and they openly flirt, reminding Ennis of how they also introduced themselves as they came out of Aguirre's trailer, and they had a subtle flirtation.

tiawahcowboy:

--- Quote from: delalluvia on May 29, 2006, 12:22:36 am ---Tia is the way I shorten it.  ;D

Well, sure, but that doesn't make you an authority on how ALL men think, now does it?

No, he doesn't have to, but he most certainly could and very likely did.

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While this is not a regular message board run by an ISP, according to internet etiquette, it is rude to shorten the a person's "ID" name. I could mess with your Spanish name and say something accordingly.  :P

I am not an authority on all men; but, I am old enough to know quite about a bit about them. What makes you an authority on male sexual activity. All men are not alike when it comes to sexual preferences; not every guy masturbates.

welliwont:

--- Quote from: starboardlight on May 29, 2006, 12:28:41 am ---Here's a link to the thread in our archive.

http://www.geocities.com/bbmarchive/surfparty.html

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Hot damn Starboardlight, how did you do that???  Is there really an archive for the IMDb threads?  Cool, who has access to it??

J

Aussie Chris:

--- Quote from: J on May 28, 2006, 07:01:33 am ---Hey Chris:  What is TOB?  The Other Board??  please confirm or explain...  Here is one more explanation that I read on IMDb two days ago:  The boy in the film is telling the pretty little blonde girl that it is illegal to park their trailer, ie:  camp on the beach, and that is reminiscent of the illegal camping that Aguirre insisted that the herder do up on Brokeback.  Do you think that is too obscure?

The reason we believe that Ennis is thinking of Jack when he is tarring, is who in their right mind would not be reminiscing and pining for last summer's peaceful idylic job up with his buddy Jack?  Versus being teamed up with *such* a blabbermouth, man!   --  if I have to listen to him all day!  And plus the fact the the guy says "broke back".

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Hi J, sorry I missed this question the other day.  Yes, TOB=The Old/Original Board.  Yeah, the film at the drive-in having dialog reminiscent of the rules for sleeping with the sheep is a little obscure to me, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't a deliberate choice.  I like your take that Ennis would have been thinking of Jack while tarring using the "wouldn't you" approach (and the answer is yes).  I like even more that you picked up on "Broke back's and weak minds run in the family" reminding Ennis of Broke-back - actually I think he says "bad back's" but I might have miss-heard this.  Thanks for pointing it out though! :)

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