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Why the Lie?
tiawahcowboy:
Since I am a country feller and have some education beyond high school, I have heard people use the expression "wrang it out" when they were trying to think really hard to figure out why something happened.
Also, a similar expression about serious thinking, a rural man would say, "I been sittin' here studyin' about that." Was he actually studying something that had been in print? No, he had been thinking really hard about a certain subject.
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: tiawahcowboy on May 28, 2006, 04:42:45 pm ---Since I am a country feller and have some education beyond high school, I have heard people use the expression "wrang it out" when they were trying to think really hard to figure out why something happened.
Also, a similar expression about serious thinking, a rural man would say, "I been sittin' here studyin' about that." Was he actually studying something that had been in print? No, he had been thinking really hard about a certain subject.
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Well, I think the context in which Ennis says this pretty much decides it.
From the short story:
Ennis: I never had no thoughts a doin it with another guy except I sure wrang it out a hundred times thinkin about you.
The context is Ennis talking about having sex with another man ('doin it' another euphemism).
tiawahcowboy:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on May 28, 2006, 10:47:50 pm ---Well, I think the context in which Ennis says this pretty much decides it.
From the short story:
Ennis: I never had no thoughts a doin it with another guy except I sure wrang it out a hundred times thinkin about you.
The context is Ennis talking about having sex with another man ('doin it' another euphemism).
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You are correct on that part about the "doin in," that is. And the context of "wrang it out" has to do with Ennis's thinking about doin' it with Jack.
So, there's no need to assume that Ennis pulled "IT" out of his pants and played with "IT."
The expression "to wring (it) out" has to do with difficult thinking about something and no connection with self-manipulation at all.
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: tiawahcowboy on May 28, 2006, 10:57:58 pm ---You are correct on that part about the "doin in," that is. And the context of "wrang it out" has to do with Ennis's thinking about doin' it with Jack.
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A guy is thinking about having sex with someone. Guys do it quite often. They also do it almost 100% of the time while masturbating. So there that is.
--- Quote ---So, there's no need to assume that Ennis pulled "IT" out of his pants and played with "IT."
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Well, there's every need since Ennis is talking about having sex with men, and since Jack isn't there, the next best thing for Ennis while thinking about doin' it with Jack is... [shrugs] Pretty clear to me.
--- Quote ---The expression "to wring (it) out" has to do with difficult thinking about something and no connection with self-manipulation at all.
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Tia you keep talking like you're an authority and the last word on what that expression means. There are other uses for that expression.
tiawahcowboy:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on May 28, 2006, 11:06:55 pm ---A guy is thinking about having sex with someone. Guys do it quite often. They also do it almost 100% of the time while masturbating. So there that is.
Well, there's every need since Ennis is talking about having sex with men, and since Jack isn't there, the next best thing for Ennis while thinking about doin' it with Jack is... [shrugs] Pretty clear to me.
Tia you keep talking like you're an authority and the last word on what that expression means. There are other uses for that expression.
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Tia is not short for "Tiawah," place in Rogers County, Oklahoma! Since I am a man and not a woman, I ought to know a little bit more about how guys think and what they do more than you do, ma'am!
One does not have to masturbate when one thinks about having had memorable sex with his friend, nor does he have to masturbate while trying to figure out why the only person he can imagine having sex with is that friend.
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