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Why are the poor, poor?
HerrKaiser:
--- Quote from: seriouscrayons on May 08, 2008, 01:58:28 pm ---This analogy does not seem to have any parallel in the real world.
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??? ??? ??? Of course it does. Many of broketrash's lists of ideas on how to help end poverty are exemlory of such. Rather than only providing the 'answers' or the end result, folks need to be encouraged to be responsible for their own outcomes.
HerrKaiser:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2008, 02:43:43 pm ---This is a non-sequitur.
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??? How so? what are you suggesting does not follow?
Artiste:
If majority of persons were responsable in the USA, Canada and other free countries, then would they have purchased Toyota cars, as a big item, and too many Made in China crap ??
Too many are lazy and not enough responsable, is that what make them so poor ? And the rich warlords richer, because they know that if they have their products Made in China, most stupid persons would purchase them ?
Who will pay for such irresponsable persons calling themselves citizens of the Free world, which is becoming 3rd World countries ??
Au revoir,
hugs!
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: HerrKaiser on May 08, 2008, 04:57:33 pm ---
??? ??? ??? Of course it does. Many of broketrash's lists of ideas on how to help end poverty are exemlory of such. Rather than only providing the 'answers' or the end result, folks need to be encouraged to be responsible for their own outcomes.
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Sure. But your stereotyping and oversimplifying of anti-poverty programs keeps you from seeing that many of them already do just that.
Let's take one example from LBJ's War on Poverty programs: Head Start. Head Start does just about exactly what you pretend conservatives do -- it takes little pre-school Johnnys and prepares them to perform better when they get to regular school. It has achieved well-documented, widely acknowledged, extensively researched success. Eliminating Head Start, to return to your analogy, would leave all those pre-school Johnnys out "playing" -- or dodging bullets in their housing projects.
HerrKaiser:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2008, 02:43:43 pm ---
It's a typical conservative gross oversimplification. Suppose Johnny is "struggling" because he has a learning disability?
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Sometimes, a bit of simplifcation is a good thing to cut through the briar patch created by government/social bureaucrasies that only feed on their own cyclical need for more bureaucrasy.
That said, the learning disability 'what if' is, imo, typical lefist nay-saying and constant desire to be paralyzed by indecision or joining a positive movement forward. I guess you could have said 'what if there is no library close by, what if it was closed when they got there, what if the computers were down....' And that helps make my point about the left's focus on giving rather than helping people acheive.
;D ;D ;D As I mentioned earlier, the left is always searching for the hammock rather than the safety net.
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