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Why are the poor, poor?
Artiste:
Right Jeff !!
And now schools are closing too !!
Will USA and Canada, etc., poor kids have to be on a human traffic boat to China to be sold as real slaves are there tomorrow and to-day ??
Only the millionaires kids will have their own schools in the near future in the USA, Canada, and other free countries as we are now becoming 3rd world countries buying Made in China crap ? GALORE ?
Shame !! But this is starting to happen ?
Au revoir,
hugs!
Artiste:
Well said injest !
HerrKaiser:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2008, 07:17:21 pm ---Actually, this response just goes to show that Leftists live in a real world, where libraries are closed as a result of Conservative Republican tax cuts. Johnny can't be taught to discover things for himself in a library that isn't there.
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D OK. have it your way...the left and dems are the party of defeat and n'er do well. So be it. Live in a world of 'here's why nothing works'...'oh woe is me' if you want...whatever turns one on.
HerrKaiser:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2008, 07:13:11 pm ---I answered that. It does not follow that because a program does not work, it was not compassionate. Compassion and success or failure are completely unrelated.
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Absolutely disagree. True compassion does not simply throw out "goodness". It seems ludicrous to think hard-nosed anticipations of success or failure need to be completely related to compassion to ensure the efforts success. By your implications, the happy meals, ice cream, candy, and pop all the kids have been consuming making them quite unhealthy would have been a compassionate upbringing (since it attended to wants). However, I see it as very uncompassionate because thinking people knew the downsides of the gluteny and did it anyway for a short term benefit. Few social scientists predicted the mass entitklements of years past, particularly the extremes I have pointed out in public housing) to end up with a net increase in productive, self reliant people.
compassion and results are indeed related. How uncompassionate to risk the life long well being of anyone on a flimsy program that could thwart their abilities to be self reliant and productive.
HerrKaiser:
--- Quote from: seriouscrayons on May 08, 2008, 06:49:03 pm ---
The difference to me is that if, for some reason, teaching a man to fish isn't possible, liberals would let him have a fish anyway, and conservatives would make him go hungry. Liberals would assume there's some practical reason he can't fish, conservatives would assume he's lazy.
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you should know that the leading charity providers to the needy are conservative people and organizations, mostly churches. that is a fact of the matter. So conservatives are KNOWN to feed the hungry.
you are right, a liberal would just give the guy a fish, no questions asked. but you are wrong about the conservative...like my analogy about Johnny, a conservative would expect the man to earn his meal in another way more in line with his capabilities...not just take without helping himself to the extent he can.
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