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Why are the poor, poor?
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: broketrash on May 09, 2008, 11:11:58 am ---Lets all come out of our ideological "closets", and esp, let BHO opine truthfully about his far left agenda, and I may just grudgingly admire him. I won't vote for him, but he would then have my respect which he does not have right now.
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Yes, there is, indeed, a Far Left Agenda!
And when the Great Day comes for the redistribution of wealth in this great land of ours, we'll be coming for the Right Wing Repbulican Conservatives First!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Clyde-B:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on May 09, 2008, 11:16:35 am ---I believe she is using pretend as a verb, not as an adjective.
But then I guess I'm on ignore, so you won't see this. ;D
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I've always found ignoring people I disagree with to be a risky business.
They may be making me look the fool and I don't even know it.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: HerrKaiser on May 08, 2008, 08:39:26 pm ---
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D OK. have it your way...the left and dems are the party of defeat and n'er do well. So be it. Live in a world of 'here's why nothing works'...'oh woe is me' if you want...whatever turns one on.
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The type of argumentation on the part of the left which you have accurately characterized is called "advanced victimology". This is a form of agitprop which the left in the US has perfected to an art form. Victimology always has a political power motive, it allows the left to achieve some of the power that they wish to have over our lives and the free market economy without ever having to announce their true intent towards the free market economy.
Kaiser, what conservatives such as yourself who work in the private sector, and who have not had extensive contact on a political level with the far left sometimes forget, is that in leftwing hagiography the most holy is the most victimized. This is one of the religious tenets to the left. To be a victim is to be good, and parading out victims during any debate is designed to end that debate. So, in a sense using victimology in debate is a type of censorship. Ann Coulter got this aspect of the left correct on point in her many columns about leftist tactics.
To summarize: the usual presentation of the left when discussing the tax vampire antipoverty programs goes something like this:
1) pity the poor: followed by examples
2) I know bone crunching poverty: my mother was, etc
3) I know people who are poor today: my neighbor, etc
4) We must spend more tax money at all levels of gov to "help the poor"!
5) Since you oppose our plans to help the poor, then you must be a racist advocate of death camps!
6) pity the poor!
where have you seen this sequence of arguments? ;)
Front-Ranger:
I keep checking this thread for information about decreasing poverty, but lately it seems to have gone way off topic! Shouldn't this be in the political forum instead?
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: Clyde-B on May 09, 2008, 11:35:10 am ---I've always found ignoring people I disagree with to be a risky business.
They may be making me look the fool and I don't even know it.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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no I see you! you have not advanced the idea that any of my arguments are like an advocacy of Nazi death camps, neither have you indicated that I have offended you as I attempt to reexplain a point again and again.
cheers! ;D
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