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TOTW 18/08: The lines from the trailer
optom3:
--- Quote from: Mandy21 on June 01, 2008, 08:59:14 pm ---Hey Sel, I must say that I have had some very interesting, long-lasting sessions with boyfriends after they've had two or three glasses of wine with dinner. I agree with Fiona that a "drunk" man is no fun in the sack, there's really no point, but a slightly tipsy man is a bazillion tons of fun, in terms of duration, and of voraciousness, and of creativity, for that matter. Fond memories... Just a tip.
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You hit the nail on the head there,tipsy good, drunk go home .
optom3:
--- Quote from: SunShadow on June 02, 2008, 01:13:32 am ---Seems like good advice for all of us!
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Oh you know me, I just dole out the advice,don't seem to have got to grips with taking it myself.
Rearrange the following into a well known phrase.Pot ,kettle sounds like,calling, black. That pretty well sums me up.!!
sel:
--- Quote from: Artiste on June 01, 2008, 12:59:59 pm ---Merci sel !
Yes, I am very proud of Wayne still, even since his is now dead, which death however, I figure, was caused by an MD who does not like gays nor Christians no Jews !!
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It is good to know though that your friend gave his life plenty of meaning.
--- Quote from: Artiste on June 01, 2008, 07:45:06 pm ---So, maybe I can guess that Ennis and Jack had less and less sex, if they kept on drinking booze all those years ?
Remember the difficulties more and more that Ennis and Jack had ??
Even if they did meet regularly in some ways, they had commnications troubles !!
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I find myself disagreeing with you on this one. The SS goes:
One thing never changed: the brilliant charge of their infrequent couplings was darkened by the sense of time flying, never enough time, never enough.
When J and E were together, over the years, they didn't drink so much, not to the stage were they wouldn't have managed to make love. They lived all those years for those moments when they were together. J might have had sex with the Mexican prostitute, with Randall, but he made love to E. J ended up drinking heavily as he was unsatisfied with his life. IMHO.
sel:
--- Quote from: BlissC on June 01, 2008, 04:03:39 pm ---IIRC = If I remember/recall correctly. ;)
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Thank you BlissC!
--- Quote from: Mandy21 on June 01, 2008, 08:59:14 pm ---Hey Sel, I must say that I have had some very interesting, long-lasting sessions with boyfriends after they've had two or three glasses of wine with dinner. I agree with Fiona that a "drunk" man is no fun in the sack, there's really no point, but a slightly tipsy man is a bazillion tons of fun, in terms of duration, and of voraciousness, and of creativity, for that matter. Fond memories... Just a tip.
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--- Quote from: optom3 on June 02, 2008, 12:19:38 am ---You hit the nail on the head there,tipsy good, drunk go home .
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Ok, that's the rule: Tipsy is ok, drunk isn't ;).
Hmmm, can't remember the original theme of this thread either! :laugh:
underdown:
This is a great topic.
Well, I'm a little late to the party, but ... 2 cents worth?
'There are places we can't return' is, for me, core to the whole story.
Maybe it could have been 'There are places we won't return' ? E & J could have returned to the love they knew, but maybe it was too hard, or too dangerous? It seemed to be like that for Ennis, at least.
Whichever way, the emotion stirred by that one thought is central to the reason why BBM is so special, and maybe why some folks watch it again and again? Perhaps they think it could have been different, and want to find some explanation of why E & J were denied each other, and settled for a more socially acceptable life ?
Whilst E & J couldn't (or wouldn't) be together, they continued to love each other. And that is something that Brokies do. They love each other, even though they are not together.
A lady I knew was divorced for 4 years and had no kind words for her ex, who ran off with another woman. She once cried on my shoulder that she missed him. Puzzled, I asked why, if he was so bad. Her answer, between sobs, was .. 'I miss him as he used to be'. She didn't miss what he did, but she missed his love. I think sometimes that's how a lot of people feel.
Don't know how the thoughts on alcohol became so entwined, here, but guess it's part and parcel of the whole story.
Some (relatively) recent research indicates that alcohol lowers tetosterone levels in men, reducing their inhibitions but also their libido, whilst it increases testosterone level in women, reducing their inhibitions but having the opposite effect on their libido. But, of course, we all knew that before the official results came out.
In the making of BBM, I guess there wasn't enough run-time for reduced libido. ;D
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