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TOTW 18/08: The lines from the trailer
loneleeb3:
--- Quote from: BlissC on May 22, 2008, 06:21:31 pm --- I always get the feeling that Jack really believed that one day they'd find that sweet life, and kind of that he thought himself invincible...
*sigh*
If only. :(
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I so agree with ya on this.
I think he was expecting it right up until the end.
I think he gave up at the lake and that is when he turned to Randall.
If only is right :'(
BelAir:
--- Quote from: optom3 on May 22, 2008, 06:42:41 pm ---O.K I am going to be swayed a little towards this line of thinking, mainly because it a amuch more positive spin.
I think with me I see it differently sometimes,because I read the story first.I cannot get the "euphoric,bitter air" out of my head.I remember as soon as I read that,my next thought was uh oh. The sentence was preceeded by them having a wonderful carefree time,then just like a roller coaster, you're up with the euphoric then plunged right down with the bitter.You also get to know that Aguirre ha watched them having sex.
My heart sank at that point, in the story,I had no idea where it was going,but I didn't think it was a good direction.
I remeber feeling incredibly sad when reding the story that their idyllic carefree time was immediately tainted.
I guess I then took this perception with me when I saw the film.
I have posted before that I often wish I had seen the film first,in some ways their time on BBM is much less spoiled in the film than in the S.S.
But then in appostion to that,Ennis is more tender and loving with Jack in the S.S than the film.
So I guess,swings and roundabouts,
But as I have had a truly dreadful night so far,I am going to let you all persuade me to the BBM time being perfect.In the hopes it may cheer me up!!!!!
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sorry to be off topic for a sec, but I am just curious whether you have read Annie's latest short story? any of her other work?
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,20354.0.html
(hopefully that is the link to the thread discussing the new short story)
to try to stay on topic... i find it sort of annoying that some scenes in the trailer did not end up appearing in the movie. has that happened with other movies/trailers? seems like something that could have been prevented, but perhaps not.
sel:
--- Quote from: Clyde-B on May 22, 2008, 09:59:01 am ---Rich, I'm hopin it won't be too long before you find yourself in one of those situations where you wish time would stop, and it would just stay like this.
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--- Quote from: loneleeb3 on May 22, 2008, 10:26:58 am ---Thanks Clyde. Me too!
I have had a one.
When I went to San Fransisco last year I wish It could have stayed that way.
Everything was new and exciting. I met my Brokie friends in person for the first time and I fell in love with the most wonderful beautiful man I had ever seen.
I wanted it to be just like that always. I feel like that everytime I am with my daughter too.
I know each day that passes she is growing more and taking another step toward adulthood and away from me.
So especially where she is concerned I feel that way!
But alas, reality steals our joy and our happiness sometimes and shows us that nothing is forever.
only bittersweet memories..
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That reminds me of a couples of lines from The horse whisperer by Nicholas Evans:
“How Frank had wished that now could last forever and how their father had said forever was but a trail of nows and the best a man could do was live each one fully in its turn.”
--- Quote from: SunShadow on May 22, 2008, 11:45:30 am ---You are so right. The tragedy of the story really lies at that fork in the road, after which Ennis and Jack were forced to look back forever on "the road not taken" with regret and (at least for Ennis) the inability to move forward in the direction that he yearned to. This is an all too familiar story to me personally. An earlier, less encumbered time, when fear prevented following the heart. There is no going back, for anyone, and BBM exemplified that all too painful reality. Regrets are the hardest part of life, at least for me, and I suspect for a lot of people. In other words, "if you can't fix it you've got to stand it."
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Same applies to me, very much spot on!
--- Quote from: loneleeb3 on May 22, 2008, 04:19:50 pm ---I don't know, I think what they had on the mountain was perfect.
For the first and only time in their lives they were who they were supposed to be.
They were free to love each other and what love it was. All new filled with excitement and promise.
They were suspended above ordinary things. The were as the Gods on Olympus.
They may have been seen by Aquirre but they didn't know that. They were in love and they were free to express it for however short a time it was.
Some people never get that.
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However short a time it was, and even knowing later that Aguirre had seen them, that time has been part of their lives, it belongs to them. No-one, nothing can take it away from them.
You're right, some people never get that. I know, sadly I am one of them.
--- Quote from: BelAir on May 22, 2008, 11:33:54 pm ---sorry to be off topic for a sec, but I am just curious whether you have read Annie's latest short story? any of her other work?
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I am currently reading The shipping news.
I have found every single post on this thread very inspiring. Thank you all!
southendmd:
Great thread, everyone!
"There are places we can't return" is of course in distinction from Jack's line "It could be like this, just like this, always."
Like Rich says, we all have had moments that are so wonderful, we hope they won't end. But, the world keeps turning.
It's a theme that has been in the culture. Jim Croce's "Time in a Bottle" comes to mind. One of my favorite expressions of this theme is from "Oliver". There's a song called "Who Will Buy?" about a perfect day, and the wish to keep it.
How about a little musical interlude?
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3EhsdMUNr8[/youtube]
Who will buy this wonderful morning?
Such a sky you never did see!
Who will tie it up with a ribbon,
And put it in a box for me?
So I could see it at my leisure,
Whenever things go wrong,
And I would keep it as a treasure,
To last my whole life long.
Who will buy this wonderful feeling?
I'm so high, I swear I could fly.
Me, oh my! I don't want to lose it.
So what am I to do
To keep a sky so blue?
There must be someone who will buy...
southendmd:
"How Frank had wished that now could last forever and how their father had said forever was but a trail of nows and the best a man could do was live each one fully in its turn.”
Wow, this is another lesson of Brokeback Mountain.
Thanks for that, sel.
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