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TOTW 18/08: The lines from the trailer
BlissC:
--- Quote from: loneleeb3 on May 22, 2008, 04:19:50 pm ---I don't know, I think what they had on the mountain was perfect.
For the first and only time in their lives they were who they were supposed to be.
They were free to love each other and what love it was. All new filled with excitement and promise.
They were suspended above ordinary things. The were as the Gods on Olympus.
They may have been seen by Aquirre but they didn't know that. They were in love and they were free to express it for however short a time it was.
Some people never get that.
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That's a good point. I guess it depends which way you look at it. They didn't know they were being watched, even though we do, so yes, I suppose they were in blissful ignorance. I guess the bittersweetness comes from the fact that we know that they were being watched. I don't think that detracts from the fact that for them that time was perfect, but for us it gives that time a slightly different perspective. I've often wondered though if Jack knew they were being watched, even before the scene the year after when Jack goes back to Aguirre's looking for work, because when Aguiirre comes to the camp to tell Jack about his uncle's pneumonia, he's wearing the binoculars around his neck, and he very pointedly looks through them at Ennis out on the mountain with the sheep.
loneleeb3:
I think Jack may have suspected and it was confirmed in Aguirres trailer the next spring.
But Jack is soooo......... I don't know, Jack! LOL
That I doubt he cared who knew or saw or anything. Nothing could have brought him down form the clouds until August when they did have to come down. After that it was all a happy place in their hearts and minds.
BlissC:
--- Quote from: loneleeb3 on May 22, 2008, 06:00:01 pm ---I think Jack may have suspected and it was confirmed in Aguirres trailer the next spring.
But Jack is soooo......... I don't know, Jack! LOL
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Yeah, I know what you mean...Jack's just soooo, well Jack! LOL! Bluebirds and whiskey springs and all that. Always the dreamer and always seeing the bright side. I always get the feeling that Jack really believed that one day they'd find that sweet life, and kind of that he thought himself invincible...
*sigh*
If only. :(
optom3:
--- Quote from: SunShadow on May 22, 2008, 05:11:20 pm ---I agree. Even though they were observed, their blissful ignorance was just that ... belief in the perfection of the moment. Nothing learned later could mar that memory, IMO.
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O.K I am going to be swayed a little towards this line of thinking, mainly because it a amuch more positive spin.
I think with me I see it differently sometimes,because I read the story first.I cannot get the "euphoric,bitter air" out of my head.I remember as soon as I read that,my next thought was uh oh. The sentence was preceeded by them having a wonderful carefree time,then just like a roller coaster, you're up with the euphoric then plunged right down with the bitter.You also get to know that Aguirre ha watched them having sex.
My heart sank at that point, in the story,I had no idea where it was going,but I didn't think it was a good direction.
I remeber feeling incredibly sad when reding the story that their idyllic carefree time was immediately tainted.
I guess I then took this perception with me when I saw the film.
I have posted before that I often wish I had seen the film first,in some ways their time on BBM is much less spoiled in the film than in the S.S.
But then in appostion to that,Ennis is more tender and loving with Jack in the S.S than the film.
So I guess,swings and roundabouts,
But as I have had a truly dreadful night so far,I am going to let you all persuade me to the BBM time being perfect.In the hopes it may cheer me up!!!!!
Clyde-B:
--- Quote from: SunShadow on May 22, 2008, 08:01:30 pm ---Sorry to hear you are having a bad night. I'm here if you want to chat more.
Now having read the few posts above, I am a little swayed toward your line of thinking. At least for Jack, the knowledge of being watched may have been there, but I'm still not sure that info caused him a problem until later when he went back looking for work. For Ennis, it would probably have been a major showstopper.
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You should have heard a bunch of us over on IMDb about a year ago. We were all in the tent huddled under Harry Potter's invisibility cloak waiting for TS2 to start. We'd even made popcorn. Shhhhh! You don't want Ennis to hear us. :laugh:
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