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TOTW 22/08: Do you think they kept each others postcards?

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HerrKaiser:
Well, for sure the overt evidence that Ennis kept at least one is clear from the last scene.

I suspect the last thing Lureen would have done would be to go on a search and find mission, suspecting that there was something to find out about her husband. No way. She was quite independent, confident, and Jack unfortunately was under appreciated by her. An under appreciated person is not a target of suspicion. Jack would have been quite able to have a secret hiding place to store his memories; and the manner in which he held to Ennis' absense indicates to me that Jack would have had a large collection of memorabilia.

Ennis, I think, would have also held onto the cards. The constant need to assess their relationship in current-day terms is a mistake; always have said that. for Ennis' time and frame of mind and situation, he knew he had little to show for his long term relationship except that which resided in his heart...and notes in Jack's own hand. Fear makes people turn to means of comfort that may otherwise be considered unnecessary. Ennis, I suspect, had a good sampling of cards stached away for those lonely times when he needed to reach out for Jack...when Jack was not there. Jack's shirt is evidence, also, of Ennis' sentimentality regarding physical items that bridge the gap of distance and loss.

Gabreya:
They kept eachother's postcards, I know.

Artiste:
Merci Herrkaiser!

Your post is very interesting!!

You say:
      Well, for sure the overt evidence that Ennis kept at least one is clear from the last scene.

I suspect the last thing Lureen would have done would be to go on a search and find mission, suspecting that there was something to find out about her husband. No way. She was quite independent, confident, and Jack unfortunately was under appreciated by her. An under appreciated person is not a target of suspicion. Jack would have been quite able to have a secret hiding place to store his memories; and the manner in which he held to Ennis' absense indicates to me that Jack would have had a large collection of memorabilia.

Ennis, I think, would have also held onto the cards. The constant need to assess their relationship in current-day terms is a mistake; always have said that. for Ennis' time and frame of mind and situation, he knew he had little to show for his long term relationship except that which resided in his heart...and notes in Jack's own hand. Fear makes people turn to means of comfort that may otherwise be considered unnecessary. Ennis, I suspect, had a good sampling of cards stached away for those lonely times when he needed to reach out for Jack...when Jack was not there. Jack's shirt is evidence, also, of Ennis' sentimentality regarding physical items that bridge the gap of distance and loss.
 
 
         
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HerrKaiser, may I disagree a bit ?


Since you say:   Jack was     unfortunately was under appreciated by her (Lureen)...         , may I say that that is NOT nescessary so, because she saw, heard and tried her best. Both, Jack and Lureen got along somehow; right ?

Too, Lureen did try to see Ennis, but Jack was not interested in presenting him, remember?

I do not blame neither! I accept BOTH, since they tried !! I suppose that Jack did kept, like you are saying, Ennis's postcards; there would have been many ?

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Concerning Ennis, it could be that he had eventually many postcards from Jack, but at first that would have been dangerous for him to do so, and that is why he had a Post Office Post but ONLY after awhile ?

Be pleasure to read your news and that of others too !
Au revoir,
hugs!

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Artiste:
Merci Gabreya !

But how many postcards did each kept, do you think??

Au revoir,
hugs!

Katie77:

--- Quote from: optom3 on August 20, 2008, 09:05:40 pm ---Another thing that always gets me in relation to the final postcard scene, is that we know in the S.S there is no smell of Jack or BBM leftin the shirts,yet after the reunion kiss, when they go upstairs to Alma, Ennis is aware that he can smell Jack on him.
So many opposites in this wonderful thing called Brokeback.Every single thing is bittersweet. I wish that Ennis hd just kept the 1st card, that he almost lovingly caresses.

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For those that have lost a loved one, they will definately understand the reaction of Ennis to hold Jack's clothes up to smell them, in the hope that somehow they might get a scent of their loved one.  I know, when I lost my sister many years ago, I used to smell her clothes and it gave me something of her that was unique and human about her that I could still feel her presence, even though she was gone. Sadly, over time, the smell disappears, and there is another feeling of loss when that happens.

In Ennis's case where he had both his and Jacks shirt, he probably wanted to smell once again the odour of both him and Jack together, as well as just the presence of Jack.

And yes, the two contrasting events you mentioned above....in one, with the shirts, he wanted the smell to be there, whereas, the other time, with Jack, he wished the smell was Not there.

Back to the postcards.....I wonder if there were many postcards sent between the two of them. The fact that Ennis had to TELL Jack , in the final lake scene, that the next time would be November and not August, indicates that they worked out when they would meet again while they were together. OR, that it was a standard thing that it was always in August. If they exchanged postcards about when they were gonna meet up, Ennis would not have been so twitchy about telling Jack about the August cancellation, and would have just let him know in a postcard.

We do know that Ennis must have contacted Jack about the divorce, but he had not contacted Jack to tell him where he had moved to.

I really dont think there were many postcards to keep.

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