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Importance of the Jimbo Scene
Katie77:
I just had a thought between the connection of the Jimbo scene one night followed by the Laureen scene the following night......if we are to assume that they were in fact on two consecutive nights....
If talk had got around the rodeo crowd about Jack, and his eye for men, well no doubt Laureen would have heard that talk too. So, I'm wondering if, because of her brazeness and forwardness, was she maybe one of these women who think, that she can turn a gay man straight. After all it was her who was doing the flirting and made the approach to Jack.
She was probably a natural flirt anyway, but if she had heard the rumours about Jack, then he would be a challenge and a bit of a trophy. A bit like, "well he might like men, but I'll give him a woman he wont resist".
Consequently, in the following years, if and when she ever had her suspicions about Jack and Ennis, she would not have been completely surprised about the fact, and realized that all those rumours back then on the rodeo cirucuit were true after all, and accepted Jack's lifestyle.
Maybe she even set up the meeting with him and Randall. She had obviosly became good friends with LaShawn and maybe she detected something from what she had said, and thought, that there may be a similarity between Randall and Jack.
As has been mentioned, Laureen was pretty street wise around men, what with the rodeo circuit and the business she was in. She would not have been bliind to what was going on around her, and she would be hearing things that most women would not be hearing.
I agree with Amanda, I like Laureen. I think she called a spade a spade, and I think she did that with Jack too.
optom3:
--- Quote from: Katie77 on August 20, 2008, 03:53:28 pm ---I just had a thought between the connection of the Jimbo scene one night followed by the Laureen scene the following night......if we are to assume that they were in fact on two consecutive nights....
If talk had got around the rodeo crowd about Jack, and his eye for men, well no doubt Laureen would have heard that talk too. So, I'm wondering if, because of her brazeness and forwardness, was she maybe one of these women who think, that she can turn a gay man straight. After all it was her who was doing the flirting and made the approach to Jack.
She was probably a natural flirt anyway, but if she had heard the rumours about Jack, then he would be a challenge and a bit of a trophy. A bit like, "well he might like men, but I'll give him a woman he wont resist".
Consequently, in the following years, if and when she ever had her suspicions about Jack and Ennis, she would not have been completely surprised about the fact, and realized that all those rumours back then on the rodeo cirucuit were true after all, and accepted Jack's lifestyle.
Maybe she even set up the meeting with him and Randall. She had obviosly became good friends with LaShawn and maybe she detected something from what she had said, and thought, that there may be a similarity between Randall and Jack.
As has been mentioned, Laureen was pretty street wise around men, what with the rodeo circuit and the business she was in. She would not have been bliind to what was going on around her, and she would be hearing things that most women would not be hearing.
I agree with Amanda, I like Laureen. I think she called a spade a spade, and I think she did that with Jack too.
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Lureen maybe having heard something about Jack on the circuit and wanting to "convert" him is such a good idea. It has always struck me as odd that a woman as beautiful as her would be sat all on her own.It is almost as if she is setting the whole thing up.
When I was getting divorced from my 1st husband, I lost count of the number of girls, friends and otherwise who thought I had just failed and they would be able to turn him on to women.
Never did work, but you can't tell some folk, not even when we went out, and he was with his boyfriend did they stop.We had and still do have a very good friendship.
I do think Lureen was confident enough in herself and maybe even conceited to think she could convert Jack.
It could also be the reason she becomes so brittle later on, because having initially asumed she had turned Jack, she starts to get an inkling that she probably hasn't.
I am sure in the missing Parka scene, all the muttering she does, is because she knows full well why Ennis never comes to Childress and why Jack is prepared to drive for 14 hours, for a fishing trip.
This opens up a whole new perspective on things.
Gabreya:
--- Quote from: Katie77 on August 19, 2008, 03:10:59 am ---I think Jack was putting out "feelers" towards Jimbo......buy him a drink, get talkin, and see if his gaydar picks up on anything.
I always feel that when Jimbo goes back to his mates playing pool, that he has told them, that he felt Jack was trying to pick him up. They all seem to look over at him in a curious way. Makes me think, whether Jack may have had a reputaton around the rodeo circuit of approaching the boys. And he seemed a bit OUT of the general crowd, not part of the group, no one to drink with. Was that because the rodeo crowd had picked up on him?
And when he got so shitty, with the bartender, it was like, "Im sick of the lot of you"......
And what was the comment those blokes made, when they were in the office with Laureen and they recognised Jack from the rodeos?......
Seemed like the only time Jack was really happy and comfortable was when he was with Ennis...and the same for Ennis when he was with Jack. No matter how much they tried to fit in or settle into all the other parts of their life, it just didn't work out.
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Yeah.
Artiste:
Atz, doesn't the waiter tells jack to become a pederastre ? What's his words?
Brown Eyes:
The bartender asks if Jack has ever tried calf-roping, which is a rodeo event. It requires a very skilled, trained and usually expensive horse... which is why Jack gets upset, saying that he couldn't afford to do that.
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