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Importance of the Jimbo Scene
Artiste:
And there is a lot of bull... going on!
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: Katie77 on August 21, 2008, 08:36:04 pm ---Amanda, I agree with you on the interpretation of the scene entirely.
My previous post was just a "what if" kind of post, but not what I really believed happened.
Isnt it amazing how so many scenes can be inerpretted in so many ways.....
This has been a very interesting thread....ive done a lot of soul searching, while contributing to it.
Maybe you should start a smiliar one on the Randall and Jack scene.
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Heya Friend!
Well, you're certainly right that there are many ways to look at different scenes. And suggesting alternative viewpoints can definitely be helpful.
There's already a thread about Randall and Jack here in Open Forum... it was a Topic of the Week a while back called, "Did It Seem Like Jack Was Responsive to Randall's Flirtatiousness". http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,13378.0.html
And, there's a very old, wonderful thread called "A Ninth Viewing Observation" http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,795.0.html that is all about Jack and Randall at the beginning. That thread rambled into lots of different topics as it went along. But, I remember it was a really fun thread... it's actually one of the classic Open Forum threads I think.
LOL, I tried to post this response over two hours ago, but my computer crashed right in the middle of me typing!! Yikes! So, I just finished doing a system recovery... which, thankfully worked, but took most of the evening.
:-\
optom3:
--- Quote from: atz75 on August 21, 2008, 08:30:43 pm ---I think there's so much suggestiveness and tension in the way that Jack looks at Jimbo, and even the way that Jimbo looks back that there's serious flirting going on, at least from Jack's side.
Jack's going through all the classic motions of picking someone up... finding an entree or pick-up line and then the cliche of buying a drink. As a scene in the film, I personally really do think it's meant to demonstrate the frustrations Jack encounters when trying to find a male partner prior to the reunion.
To me it would seem strange for the filmmakers to go through the effort of showing an elaborate scene where Jack is just trying to become friends with the rodeo clown.
I think there's a ton of ambiguity in the Randall encounter about who's flirting with whom, and what Jack's reactions to Randall's attentions are. I think there's less ambiguity in the Jimbo scene. But, with almost all aspects of BBM there's certainly room for multiple interpretations.
To me, Jack's decision to hook up with Lureen is a form of giving up. He may partially have done it to squash rumors that might have existed about him. But, mostly I think it's a form of reluctant resignation to an expectation that society is foisting on him with the end result being a marriage of convenience and a child he doesn't want. The bartender's comment in the Lureen scene about how much money Lureen's family makes seems to sweeten the deal slightly for Jack in this decision for him. For Jack, I think it's as much about the money as anything else.
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When I looked at the screenplay, it says ,Jack after watching Jimbo limps over to him,stands close to his shoulder. It then says. there is a frisson, a vibe,that gives the clown an uneasy feeling although he remains perfectly friendly.
That would definitely seem to imply, Jack was trying to pick him up. Jimbo feels it So could be he is another Ennis type who Jack has spotted, or he could be straight but realises what is happening.
The only thing that puzzles me now, is I would have thought that a straight man who has a man try to pick him up, would erupt. Particularly in that macho environment.Yet Jimbo does nothing.
I wonder if part of the point of the scene, is to let the viewer know, what the reader of the S.S does, that Jack has been riding more than bulls,prior to the reunion.
That being so, it could only really be with cowboys, rodeo riders, etc where he does his"riding"
Artiste:
Optom, I am surprised at you thinking that Jimbo does nothing !
You know what a frisson is to use your word?
Plus, Jimbo did react also AGAIN negatively in the movie towards Jack telling him off, and also creating a gang against Jack !
What is that? Nothing? Again, you miss how two men, a decent Jack, is dangered by the con artist Jimbo ?
Au revoir,
hugs! Now, you are giving me the frisson ?
Katie77:
frisson
One entry found.
frisson
Main Entry: fris·son
Pronunciation: \frē-ˈsōⁿ\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural frissons \-ˈsōⁿ(z)\
Etymology: French, shiver, from Old French friçon, from Late Latin friction-, frictio, from Latin, literally, friction (taken in Late Latin as derivative of frigēre to be cold)
Date: 1777
: a brief moment of emotional excitement : shudder, thrill <produce a genuine frisson of disquiet — Patricia Craig>
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