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Importance of the Jimbo Scene
Artiste:
Merci optom, I am glad that you can see it, and maybe likely others too, while I remain not seeing it!
It is good to get your communications and those of others too!!
Au revoir,
hugs! P.S. Am glad too that the next Olympics will be in London in 2012 ! Did you know?
Maybe you will bring some copies of the postcards that Ennis and Jack had to there, considering how important they can bring World Peace and Love among Men and Ladies !! ?
Artiste:
As said:
Jack might very well leave right afterward not only out of embarrassment but also out of a sense of danger when Jimbo goes over to the pool table and starts talking with the other guys.
....
Doesn't that indicate that Jimbo is dangerous ?
I still ask myself that question!
What do you think?
Au revoir,
hugs!
Front-Ranger:
The bottom line in this scene is that no bad thing happened to Jack other than him being slighted and that may have been his imagination. In the movie, the camera follows Jimbo as he goes over to his buddies, and they do not even look over in Jack's direction. All fears and threats are imperceptible and under the surface. We never really know if Jack was in danger after he left that roadhouse or not.
As for the bartender's question, "Ever tried calf-roping?" it may have been just a suggestion to help Jack get in with the in-crowd, or it may have been an allusion to him to stick with pursuing the females of the species. We never really know.
Artiste:
Merci Front-Ranger !
May I disagree with your two points in your post!
To me, that ( Jimbo scene) starts the fear within Jack !
Plus much more.
Danger of one's reputation started by Jimbo about Jack being gay, doesn't count?
Plus, the bartendar wants Jack to be a pedophile... is that it ?
There are many dangers in the Brokeback movie... enumerated to show that gay men are or can be in danger often, and that is what I see in this film !
Au revoir,
hugs! I still talk to gay guys who have seen the film disliking it greatly refusing to see it twice, or refuse to watch it a first time, since they fear somehow that underline stories about it that gays are to be hurt or killed as one local politician said lately in a school and elsewhere, did you hear! Keep care !
Front-Ranger:
Yes, I agree with you about the presence of fear and the need for fear and caution due to the lingering prevalence of hatred and homophobia in our society. And I do not doubt that Jack inevitably met his end due to prejudice and irrational hatred. Although there is even ambiguity about this...was the killing of Jack just a figment of Ennis' imagination? We do not know. It never says for sure. We are left to make our own conclusions based on our prejudices, beliefs and outlook of the world and people's natures.
Getting back to Jimbo however, there is another reason for the rodeo clown scene. In classic stories of all kinds, the figure of the clown often appears. On one level, the clown is seen as an escape from the serious side of life, but on another level, the clown is a symbol of randomness and chaos. The clown can even be menacing, because through one misstep, your life can be taken away and life goes on without you, uncaring, unknowing. The fool or the clown is a fixture of Greek tragedies, Fellini movies, as well as Batman movies. There is a double dose of clowns in The Dark Knight, since the movie begins with the Joker in a clown mask leading a bank heist. The director, Chistopher Nolan, is one of the most existential auteurs directing today, so this movie is revealing of our culture.
Another representation of the clown is the Devil, who appears in a couple of Annie Proulx's latest stories in her collection Fine Just the Way it Is.
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