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Importance of the Jimbo Scene
Katie77:
--- Quote from: Artiste on October 12, 2008, 03:56:42 pm ---Plus, the bartendar wants Jack to be a pedophile... is that it ?
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WTF is that supposed to mean????
Artiste:
Merci encore Front-Ranger,
as your post is very interesting.
Regarding clowns in stories, they do vary, as you described. Did Annie use Jimbo in her Brokeback Mountain story?
If Jimbo outlines an escape from the serious parts of life, that may seem so as he smiles to his friends after smiling to Jack refusing Jack, but he is likely two-faced and represents danger, may I repeat!
Jack was happy to ask Jimbo to be his friend (as a mate) but Jimbo cuts out that happiness in many ways.
The whole scene is like a mask... and it becomes a circus of bad behaviours by Jimbo, the barman and by Jimbo's friends which becomes a gang (a dangerous one to my view) !
I can never think that anyone see that Jack's death can be other than murder by a gang which is anti-gay And not only because that has hapenned to me, more than once!! It's logic that the story undertones towards gang murder of Jack!
But did Annie want Jack's death?
May I ask such questions ?
Au revoir,
hugs! As far as other directors, I would have loved to see Fellini do this Brokeback Mountain movie ! Would you too?
Front-Ranger:
--- Quote from: Artiste on October 12, 2008, 08:08:54 pm ---Regarding clowns in stories, they do vary, as you described. Did Annie use Jimbo in her Brokeback Mountain story?
If Jimbo outlines an escape from the serious parts of life, that may seem so as he smiles to his friends after smiling to Jack refusing Jack, but he is likely two-faced and represents danger, may I repeat!
Jack was happy to ask Jimbo to be his friend (as a mate) but Jimbo cuts out that happiness in many ways.
The whole scene is like a mask... and it becomes a circus of bad behaviours by Jimbo, the barman and by Jimbo's friends which becomes a gang (a dangerous one to my view) !
As far as other directors, I would have loved to see Fellini do this Brokeback Mountain movie ! Would you too?
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I have looked thru the story, and I can find no reference to a rodeo clown in it. You are right, Artiste, that the clown can be a menacing figure. Just look at Heath's character of the Joker, who was dedicated to random senseless destruction and chaos. Also, this could be a description of mob behavior, which Jimbo and his cronies could represent as you point out.
Yes, it would be very interesting to see Brokeback Mountain produced by Fellini!!
Artiste:
Merci encore Front-Ranger,
as you note that Annie had not included Jimbo.
I wonder if Ennis considered Jimbo as menacing ?
And did Jake as Jack viewed Jimbo as a devil or so ?
Your post outlines what I thought all along that that Jimbo scene is menacing to Jack and in many ways!!
But I wonder why not many viewers see that menace?
Au revoir,
hugs!
Mandy21:
--- Quote from: Katie77 on October 12, 2008, 08:04:11 pm ---WTF is that supposed to mean????
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Thank you Sue. I'd like the answer/explanation to that statement as well from Artiste. Absolutely NO idea what connection or context is associated between the bartender's words and any implication of anyone being a pedophile. There were no children involved in that scene whatsoever. It was a bar, where only grown-ups go, so what in the world would that have to do with molesting children? He completely lost me, as well as you apparently, on that statement.
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