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Importance of the Jimbo Scene
Front-Ranger:
The origins of clowns may go back as far as the Dionysian rituals of ancient Greece. This major diety was called the Liberator (Eleutherios), freeing one from one's normal self, by madness, ecstasy, or wine. Clowns serve an important purpose in art because they meet some deeply rooted needs in humanity: violation of taboos, the mockery of sacred and profane authorities and symbols, reversal of language and action, and a ubiquitous obscenity.
Fear of clowns is widespread enuff to have a name, it is called coulrophobia.
When Jack approached Jimbo at the bar, Jimbo was still wearing some of his whiteface makeup.
Artiste:
Merci Front-Ranger!
I enjoy learning a new word everyday: coulrophobia... is one among some others wonderful news you proviode in your post!
Do you wonder, as I, why Jimbo was still wearing some whiteface makeup?
Au revoir,
hugs!
Kerry:
--- Quote from: Mandy21 on October 13, 2008, 12:37:06 am ---"Far-fetched" would be a very nice way to word that interpretation, Lee. In a bazillion years, I would never have thought of the "calf-roping" line to mean ANY thing other than "calf roping". Makes me sick to think of it being interpreted in any other way than that.
Like Sue said, I guess different minds see things differently. I'm just glad I'm not inside some of their minds...
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What Mandy said. Not in my wildest imaginings did I ever consider this line had anything whatsoever to do with anything other than calf roping. Paedophilia? How very bizarre. :-\
optom3:
--- Quote from: Kerry on October 13, 2008, 08:52:54 pm ---What Mandy said. Not in my wildest imaginings did I ever consider this line had anything whatsoever to do with anything other than calf roping. Paedophilia? How very bizarre. :-\
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Have to agree also. I felt I had stumbled into some surreal, highly unpleasant universe when I caught up with this post. I think the issue of gay men,and the possible cause of Jack's demise is contraversial enough. I hardly think that either Lee or Proulx wanted, intended or even implied anything else. It is not an idea I want to entertain even briefly.
Mandy21:
--- Quote from: atz75 on October 13, 2008, 09:35:36 am ---
Well, I think that bull riding and calf roping are both pretty macho.
Calf roping seems to be about precision (in terms of aiming the rope and timing in keeping up with the calf). Bull riding is about making cooridnating movements (or counter-moves) on the back of the bull, or reacting to the bull's direction changes with your own body. So, the skill sets are different for the two events too. And, I do think Jack's probably right that calf roping is a lot more expensive since you use your own, well-trained horse. A bull rider just needs his chaps, glove, spurs and bull rope. The bull would be owned by a stock contractor and the selection of bull traditionally would be random (there are some PBR events now where the riders can choose their bull, but those events are an exception to the norm).
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Amanda, as always, you put most of us to shame with your enlightening in-depth knowledge of the rodeo circuit. I keep waiting for the day when they make you an on-air announcer at one of the events you attend. ;D
I am intrigued by what you said above, and had never really thought calf-roping would cost the rider more than it would cost them to ride bulls. I always presumed that the horse had a proper owner (stock contractor, as you called it), and stable and all the care it needed, and the calf-roper just spent time training it from when it was young, and then riding it when there was an event. Then again, I always presumed, that if the calf-roper/rider won an event, that he/she would split the winnings with the owner. I don't know where I got these notions, but I'm curious now -- is it not done like that? Please enlighten us some more when you get a chance!
Also, the second question is, if all you say is true, and was probably accepted as common knowledge in rodeo bars, what would lead that bartender to believe Jack had any extra money to pursue the more expensive sport? Could it be as simple as the fact that Jack was generous enough with his money to buy Jimbo a beer? Nah, it can't be that simple. Any theories as to why?
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