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The mysterious "I love you" and other nearly indiscernible moments
Sheyne:
--- Quote from: latjoreme on June 23, 2006, 10:58:21 am ---But I will say that the people who write the subtitles are in the same position we are -- they just have to listen and watch and try to figure it out for themselves.
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Uhhhh yeah.. referring the new guys to my thread on my Malaysian bootleg subtitles...
...it also helps if they speak English. ;D
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Mikaela on June 24, 2006, 04:07:01 am ---Perhaps it's just that they all actually give less attention to all the subtitilng and translating correctness and completeness than we do? :o ;)
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Sometimes I wonder if even Annie, Larry, Diana, Ang, Heath and Jake paid as much attention to the minutiae of this film as we do! :laugh:
Don Wroe is mentioned in the screenplay and short story, and I would assume the subtitlers had access to those.
"It's all right, it's all right" is in the "Story to Screenplay" version of the screenplay. No "sorry." (Neither, of course, is in the book.) But then again, it's perfectly possible to say something in the movie that wasn't in the screenplay.
Mikaela:
--- Quote ---But then again, it's perfectly possible to say something in the movie that wasn't in the screenplay.
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I just realized that "I just can't stand this anymore" is in fact not in the screenplay. Pretty good example (among various others) of significant dialogue having been added probably as the scene was being filmed.
Since we're talking of possible or certain differences between the script and film, and barely unheard dialogue; - there's another "obscure, now you hear it, now you don't" moment I've been noticing for some time. It's in the scene where Jack and Ennis are riding through some woodland, directly after the scene where they meet up and Ennis brings beans. According to the script, Jack says: "I wish we'd jump a coyote. I'd love to rope a coyote" . Originally I thought they'd cut that, but now I think I distinctly hear jack saying the word "Coyote" in that scene. Anyone else hearing this?
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Mikaela on June 24, 2006, 03:50:59 pm ---I just realized that "I just can't stand this anymore" is in fact not in the screenplay. Pretty good example (among various others) of significant dialogue having been added probably as the scene was being filmed.
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Wow, that's for sure! Good catch. I guess I noticed this while reading the screenplay but forgot all about it. Now that line seems really crucial to my understanding of that scene and what follows.
As for the coyote quote, I haven't heard it. But then I have never even heard the bean quote.
dly64:
--- Quote from: Mikaela on June 24, 2006, 03:50:59 pm ---I just realized that "I just can't stand this anymore" is in fact not in the screenplay. Pretty good example (among various others) of significant dialogue having been added probably as the scene was being filmed.
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You are right that there are things that were added in the film that were not in the screenplay and vice versa. The whole scene after Jack says "you're late" is primarily cut out. I actually think Ennis does say "Look what I brought" ... and then he was going to pull out the beans .... Beyond that, who knows? Then again ... a matter of interpretation.
Another sentence that is not in the screenplay, but is in the movie (that is, if we are in agreement) is when Ennis says, "Been puttin' the blocks to a good lookin' little gal over in Riverton ...." (as an FYI ... I know this is not the complete dialogue). Afterwards, he says, "I don't know."
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