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At what moment in BBM did you realize that they were falling in love?
moremojo:
--- Quote from: Oregondoggie on December 21, 2007, 05:23:41 pm ---Annie Proulx saw an older cowhand staring wistfully at the young men playing pool in a bar in Sheridan, Wyoming. He is alone.
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Yes, and in the story's italicized preface, there are distinct clues that many years have passed since Jack's death, and Ennis shows every sign of being quite alone. In the story, there is a strong implication that Jack's death marked the end of Ennis's emotional journey.
The movie, however, can (and does for some) lend itself to a more redemptive outcome for Ennis. The exchange with Junior in part shows that Ennis has learned valuable lessons from his experience with Jack, and is beginning to incorporate those lessons in his life.
It is interesting, brokeplex, that you invoke Ride the High Country. In the published BBM screenplay, in the post-Thanksgiving riding scene, Jack and Ennis are described in an authorial aside as meant to suggest Randolph Scott and Joel McCrea in that film.
Artiste:
Thanks all of you!!
Oregondoggie you say: [Annie Proulx saw an older cowhand staring wistfully at the young men playing pool in a bar in Sheridan, Wyoming. He is alone/i]
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Is that the sort of a gay man, according to Annie? Being alone!! ??
If you are a gay man, young or old, should one be sad with that ending by Annie?? See that as the probable ending of one's life: being alone??
Do we, as spectators, see that too in the BM movie: such loneliness?
In that BM film, we can think or feel that Ennis and Jack were in love, but we do realise that is never to end that way!! Sad is the ending!! That is the hallmark of when we, as spectators, think that Ennis loves then Jack: I swear...?? Can that be a sad episode too, since Ennis is alone and sad!! in his trailer after his daughter announces her marriage ??
Hugs!!
May Christmas time be Merry (and not only sad one) as to reflect upon being Happy during then, and in the Gay Holidays!!
Oregondoggie:
The short story is a tragedy, undiluted by a happy future for Ennis. The movie changed this... possibly to accomodate the box office.
BTW, the theme of this thread is about when do we realize they were falling in love. Both the book and the movie seem to place this around the good time they have one evening at the campfire, talking and teasing each other. Ennis "thought he'd never had such a good time, felt he could paw the white out of the moon." In the movie there is also some good natured jostling after the elk is killed earlier...
Artiste:
Thanks Oregondoggies! And thanks too to all others!!
Oregondoggies, since you mention that in the movie: there is also some good natured jostling after the elk is killed earlier...
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May I say that that jostling, and other tender moments too after, that leads me to think that those are also short times as scenes that leads me to think that Ennis and Jack are falling in love, more and more!!
What do you think Oregondoggies and you all??
Hugs!! Merry Christmas and Gay Holidays!!
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: moremojo on December 21, 2007, 05:58:41 pm ---Yes, and in the story's italicized preface, there are distinct clues that many years have passed since Jack's death, and Ennis shows every sign of being quite alone. In the story, there is a strong implication that Jack's death marked the end of Ennis's emotional journey.
The movie, however, can (and does for some) lend itself to a more redemptive outcome for Ennis. The exchange with Junior in part shows that Ennis has learned valuable lessons from his experience with Jack, and is beginning to incorporate those lessons in his life.
It is interesting, brokeplex, that you invoke Ride the High Country. In the published BBM screenplay, in the post-Thanksgiving riding scene, Jack and Ennis are described in an authorial aside as meant to suggest Randolph Scott and Joel McCrea in that film.
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I would suspect that Ennis never again had a close encounter with another man. Jack was it for him. But, that doesn't entirely mean an end to his journey towards a life of emotional self-acceptance and awareness. Ennis kept his ties to his daughters. He was invited to Junior's wedding, and in the ss he mused about the possibility of having to live temporarily with Junior and her husband. This implies a good relationship with both Junior and her roughneck husband. The Ennis that we first meet leaning next to Joe Aguirre's trailer was so closed up and afraid that it was difficult for him to make friends. Ennis grew as a result of his love for Jack, and finally his acceptance, albeit still "closeted", of that love.
"Ride the High Country" has always been one of my favorite Westerns. The motivation of the "hero" (the McCrea character) to lead and cause others to lead a 'justified' life, has always intrigued me. I see what you are saying about the visual imagery of the boys riding together, it does resemble Scott and McCrea, also the images of Ennis leading the pack mules along the ridgeline paths seems also taken from the movie. Thanks for reminding me.
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