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"Jack, I swear..." What do you think Ennis meant by that?
moremojo:
Sue, I think your interpretation is perfectly valid. There's enough ambiguity in the story/film adaptation to support a wide variety of conclusions.
I do think that if Ennis is indeed primarily heterosexual (with the exception of his feelings for Jack [their relationship was homosexual, even if they themselves were not]), that that compounds his tragedy in the end. He never loved anyone quite like he loved Jack, a man, and if Jack was the only man to whom he could respond, then the prospect of his finding a similar relationship becomes even more remote. (I hope I am making sense here).
Artiste:
Thanks to all!!
It is or could be even remote as you say moremojo that Ennis will NOT find another man similar to Jack, indeed... since he only has Jack on his mind, even if Jack I swear... means Jack you are my only one and will always be my only one!!
And, that Jack I swear... could be more than that too, like now my daughter is getting married, I wish I had married YOU, stayed with you, somehow lived together, at least closer with you Jack?? It could be much more than that, like I will now do like you...Jack: seek someone like YOU !
Yes, of course, like you say moremojo, Ennis is in like a purgatory, because the nightmares, etc., indicate that. I feel that I am too having lost my partner (Wayne) who I figure was killed by a medical doctor in a hospital, that I am in a such purgatory having lost him even if I battled for his life, and because Wayne was placed purpusely in such a state by that so-called MD!! Those are FIXATIONS that Ennis, Wayne and I have... that last!!! Even after death, I think that Jack (like Wayne) have nightmares because they were killed by persons who murder gays!!
That must be hard to understand for readers, as it is so hard for me too in order to live comfortably with that in my mind set as well in Ennis's!!
That is only one of the reason why I want a remake, another movie like it, and or a serie, but nobody seems to care for that??
Awaiting your news from you and from all,
hugs, hugs!!
lachlan:
I recall that Annie Proulx meant the motel scene to be pivotal in the short story. In there, Ennis remarks that he hasn't considered "doing it" with any other man but "I wrang it a hunderd times thinkin bout you!" (something like that). I have known quite a few fellows in my time whose sexual interests were exclusively toward women, but who had one deep, loving and sexual relationship with another man. Indeed, I met someone recently who had just broken up with his girlfriend and, although not consciously attracted to males, announced in private to me that he figures his life wouldn't be complete if he didn't have at least one same-sex experience before he settled into marriage. I've met many guys very like Ennis in that respect at least.
Artiste:
Thanks lachlan!
You reveal such among straights!!
Yes, I found that to be true stories too for some straights!!
And yet they considered themselves straights ONLY, and some get angry if you mention that they might be gay!!
Are they just starting to be gay, or just playing anything goes?? Or is it like the BM movie: a social refusal impressed as a fixation against gays??
Hugs!!
Rayn:
--- Quote from: Katie77 on April 28, 2007, 06:21:00 pm ---I think he is saying, "Jack, I Swear, I will never not do anything for someone I love, again"
--- End quote ---
Hello Everyone,
I'm not surprised this thread is still going. The ways to take the "Jack, I swear..." statement are so numerous and make for interesting discussion. I created this thread so long ago and have had many "ah ha moments" about the statement myself. I know I've written about several here, but tonight, I watched the film again. This makes the 8th time in two years, I guess. I got a more or less fresh and solid read for myself on what Ennis meant which agrees with Katie77.
What I feel this time is, that he's saying, "Jack I swear I will try to live with an open heart for loved ones. I will do everything I can to learn to do that because I couldn't do that so well for you. I didn't know how, I didn't really understand love, until I lost you. Jack, I swear you taught me the meaning and importance of real love and now that I know, I will love others in your memory; Jack, I swear, I will." It is his last act of love for Jack and the only thing he can really do to go on living. It's the only cure for the nightmares and the gnawing grief he feels. I'm convinced that's what he meant now, even though I've taken it in so many other ways.
Isn't it funny how the mind and heart change and reform over ideas and life experiences?! I did enjoy seeing my "old friends" Jack and Ennis again, but as I mentioned in some other thread, I still hate the sadness of Ennis over the loss of Jack, I hate losing Jack too, but take small comfort in knowing that their love enlarged Ennis' soul even if it increased his loneliness for a while. I say this knowing that if I am correct, and if Ennis were a real person, then the more he learns to open his heart to others, the less lonely he will be in the future. Jack will always be his saddest and sweetest memory, but in the end, there's some hope that comes in to the picture for Ennis.
Peace,
Rayn
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