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Life and this movie are messy
ednbarby:
--- Quote from: Marge_Innavera on February 19, 2007, 11:01:27 am ---It was a matter of making choices as to what they wanted to do. If Ang Lee et al. had wanted a limited run in small theatres they would have done it a different way and the film would have been more 'purist' but I doubt it would be so extensively discussed and I'm not sure that anyone would be saying they were inspired or their lives changed by it.
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Excellent point, Marge. Had I read the story first, I'd have envisioned very different people as those characters. Neither of them would have been handsome, per ce, but they would have had a certain winsomeness that would justify them both being able to marry attractive women and in one case, an attractive woman with a lot of money. I agree that had the filmmakers gone with relative unknowns and been more true to the story in that sense, we first of all would not be here right now having this discussion. Nor would it have gotten any notice from any awards-giving entity except for film festivals and perhaps the Independent Spirit Awards, and thus people would have never talked about it like they have let alone still be talking about it.
I saw a lovely, lovely film a couple weeks ago called "Sweet Land." It was a first-time film from the director and had two relative unknowns playing the leads. And while it had a few names with some indie cred like Alan Cumming, Ned Beatty, Lois Smith, and Alex Kingston in peripheral roles, it was never going to be a theater blockbuster. That's a shame because it was a really lovely film and a beautiful love story. This movie would have had the same fate had Ang Lee gone with lesser-known and perhaps less universally attractive actors. I'm thankful that he/they didn't. And though I can't speak for her, I believe Annie is, too.
Penthesilea:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on February 19, 2007, 10:07:04 am ---
I thought it was farting??
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Okay, belly scratching comes third place ;)
--- Quote ---Looking forward to seeing your new topic, Chrissi!!
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I didn't open a new topic. I put it in the "Jack and the wind"-thread. Here: http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,1097.msg157925.html#msg157925
HerrKaiser:
--- Quote from: ednbarby on February 19, 2007, 11:21:41 am ---Excellent point, Marge. Had I read the story first, I'd have envisioned very different people as those characters. Neither of them would have been handsome, per ce, but they would have had a certain winsomeness that would justify them both being able to marry attractive women and in one case, an attractive woman with a lot of money. I agree that had the filmmakers gone with relative unknowns and been more true to the story in that sense, we first of all would not be here right now having this discussion. Nor would it have gotten any notice from any awards-giving entity except for film festivals and perhaps the Independent Spirit Awards, and thus people would have never talked about it like they have let alone still be talking about it.
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I think you and marge are making, indirectly, the point I am suggesting...that to try to make direct comparisons between the book and the film can be muttled because of the effect of the VERY attractive film version of Ennis and Jack vs the not so versions in the book. Their attractiveness in the book was empathetic, sympathitic, and somewhat pathetic, but not romantic and erotic per se. the film was hollywoodized with the two of the keys to successful film making--great looking people and audience appeal.
Front-Ranger:
Let's talk about guts, shall we? When Jack cuts loose in the rodeo/fuck-ups scene, he says, "I'm spurrin his guts out!" (meaning the horse's) But, sadly, we see a portent of his future fate due to not spurs but a tire iron :'(
And Ennis, for his part, talks of the gut cramps he had after he and Jack parted, thinking he musta ate something bad in DuBois. But instead he had something very very good with de boi and he let it go. :-\ ;)
Marge_Innavera:
--- Quote from: HerrKaiser on February 19, 2007, 04:02:00 pm ---I think you and marge are making, indirectly, the point I am suggesting...that to try to make direct comparisons between the book and the film can be muttled because of the effect of the VERY attractive film version of Ennis and Jack vs the not so versions in the book. Their attractiveness in the book was empathetic, sympathitic, and somewhat pathetic, but not romantic and erotic per se. the film was hollywoodized with the two of the keys to successful film making--great looking people and audience appeal.
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They are no less sympathetic for being physically attractive. The term "hollywoodized" isn't a magic incantation, believe it or not.
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