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In the New Yorker...
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on March 03, 2023, 02:30:49 pm ---Doncha just hate it when people say "nook-you-lar"? ;D
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Yes, I could never believe George Bush kept doing that despite undoubtedly being told hundreds of times that it was incorrect.
--- Quote ---I would never say "ima" (you mean using it as in "ima gonna go"?).
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:laugh: No, that's a fake movie Italian accent. The first time I heard of Ima was when Kanye West jumped onstage during Taylor Swift's acceptance speech at the Grammys maybe 20 years ago. (I didn't watch the show but heard about it later online -- I think he was arguing that Beyonc? should have won.) When quoting him, people spelled it "Ima" and of course that's how he pronounced it.
Of course that was back when it was respectable to repeat something Kanye said, but I thought Ima was kind of a fun way to say it, so every now and then I do it consciously. Normally I'd say "I'm gonna." Or maybe more like "Mgonna" or even "Ngonna."
--- Quote ---Beyond that, I'd say it depends on the situation. When I speak, "kind of" frequently comes out as something like "kindev." (I'm not sure how to spell that to get the sound across.) And then again it sometimes does come out sounding like "kinda." Similarly, "must have" comes out like a contraction: "must'ev." "Going to" does come out like "gonna," or more likely "gunna," with a "u" sound.
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I say "kind'v." If there's a letter in there at all it's ə.
This conversation reminds me of this funny bit by the comedian Gary Gulman (his standup special, "The Great Depresh" is great -- he's from Boston so if you guys don't know him, Paul must). This whole thing is pretty funny, and there's a passage in the middle about contractions specifically. He mentions "we'd've"!
Jeff Wrangler:
Incidentally, tomorrow (March 4) is National Grammar Day.
https://www.wikidates.org/holiday/national-grammar-day_691.html
Somebody in my company posted an article about it on our intranet, but, unfortunately, I can't find it.
He listed several books about grammar, but, in my view, he committed the unpardonable sin of omitting Eats, Shoots, and Leaves, by Lynne Trusse.
I must have gotten rid of my copy because I can't find it. :'(
southendmd:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on March 03, 2023, 02:30:49 pm ---
Unless, of course, you're from New England. Then it's Wustah. Ain't that right, Paul?
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You bet it is! The minor league team for the Red Sox used to be in Pawtucket, RI. They were called the "Paw Sox". However, Pawtucket lost out to Worcester (cuz they built a better stadium). So, whadya gonna call 'em? The "Wo Sox", prounounced "whoah". Gotta love New England.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on March 03, 2023, 05:49:44 pm ---He listed several books about grammar, but, in my view, he committed the unpardonable sin of omitting Eats, Shoots, and Leaves, by Lynne Trusse.
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Although isn't that technically about punctuation? Or do you feel punctuation is a subset of grammar?
southendmd:
Katy, no, I've never heard of Gary G. But it was kinda funny. I liked the conTRACtor/CONtractor thingie.
Here's a weird New Englandism: Let's say you said you went skiing in New Hamster. If I also went there, I'd reply: "so didn't I". I know it sounds strange, but it comes very naturally. It simply means "me too". I think Way with Words radio show did a piece on that; I should look it up.
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