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serious crayons:

--- Quote from: dly64 on July 27, 2006, 01:26:55 pm ---Alma, Jr. and Cassie have this dialogue in the bar:
Cassie:  …. Your daddy ever gonna see fit to settle down again?
Alma, Jr. Don’t know … Maybe he’s not the marrying kind.
Cassie: You don’t think so? Or you don’t think I’m the one for him?
Alma, Jr. You’re good enough.
Cassie: You don’t say much, but you get your point across.

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Yeah, I think that's it. Either Alma means just what she says, or she suspects he's gay. I think I've heard someone suggest some even deeper meaning to this exchange, but I can't remember what it is.

What I don't get is what Cassie means. What does she think Alma's point is?


--- Quote from: jpwagoneer1964 on July 27, 2006, 12:56:03 pm ---There is a look Ennis gives at the end of "cow calf operation..." just as Jack touches his ear like 'I know I wish we could but...' or 'You only make it worse when you reach for me, that we cant be together.'

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I think it's the first. He looks really sad there, partly because he's had to relive the horrifying experience. But it's also related, I think, to his desolate expression in the Motel Siesta when Jack asks what they're going to do now. He doesn't dare live with a man, but that doesn't mean he's not distraught at having to be apart from Jack.

nakymaton:

--- Quote from: latjoreme on July 27, 2006, 01:38:17 pm ---What I don't get is what Cassie means. What does she think Alma's point is?

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I think that Cassie thinks that Alma's saying that Ennis doesn't love Cassie; that she just happens to be the one that he's with. I don't think that she every understands the reason why Ennis will never fall in love with her, though.

"I don't get you, Ennis del Mar..."

dly64:

--- Quote from: latjoreme on July 27, 2006, 01:38:17 pm ---What I don't get is what Cassie means. What does she think Alma's point is?
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OMG!! I thought I was the only one! I can't figure out what Cassie means, either. I mean, I have watched this film >100 times and everytime she says that, I scratch me head and say, "huh?"


--- Quote ---He looks really sad there, partly because he's had to relive the horrifying experience. But it's also related, I think, to his desolate expression in the Motel Siesta when Jack asks what they're going to do now. He doesn't dare live with a man, but that doesn't mean he's not distraught at having to be apart from Jack.
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Agreed.

dly64:

--- Quote from: nakymaton on July 27, 2006, 01:52:11 pm ---I think that Cassie thinks that Alma's saying that Ennis doesn't love Cassie; that she just happens to be the one that he's with. I don't think that she every understands the reason why Ennis will never fall in love with her, though.

"I don't get you, Ennis del Mar..."
--- End quote ---

I think our comments crossed here ...

That actually makes sense. You are saying that Cassie never figures it out, right? I would agree with that, too.

nakymaton:
Yeah, I don't think that Cassie ever figures it out. Ennis worries so much that people look at him and "know," but even a woman that left cheap white wine in his refrigerator didn't figure it out.

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