The World Beyond BetterMost > The Culture Tent
Gay Marriage Sinks Miss California's shot at Crown
Kelda:
--- Quote from: injest on May 05, 2009, 11:31:16 pm ---there it is...Herr she is not mad about Ms Prejeans opinion, she hates her because she is beautiful and a Christian.
--- End quote ---
Again - Oh for goodness sake!
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51WIykNTUV0[/youtube]
injest:
then why keep bringing up her religion? and why give Obama a pass when he said the same thing?
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: HerrKaiser on May 05, 2009, 09:58:18 pm ---yes. and you would be well served to be more precise and literal rather than infusing emotional bias and bigotry into your views.
--- End quote ---
Sorry, you didn't answer my question. Now who is it that is avoiding being precise?
--- Quote ---Her opinion is a majority POV, including the POTUSA, your Obama.
--- End quote ---
Yes and the majority is always correct. I mean, the majority don't believe women should have equal rights, the majority used to believe slavery was OK and the majority used to believe the world was flat.
--- Quote ---It is bigotry on anyone's part to deny her access to any freedoms (including the opportunity to be miss usa) for her opinion.
--- End quote ---
A beauty pageant isn't a democracy, Herr. It would help if you read the previous posts. ;) The pageant judges can vote for whoever they and their sponsors like. And I'm fairly sure the gay judges didn't like her answer. That's their perogative.
--- Quote ---She expressed her opinion as a belief for HER life, and you nor anyone else has a right to hurt her for that.
--- End quote ---
Again, she didn't say it just for herself - which is bad enough - she said ti for herself AND her country. Which she has since gone on to prove. Bigotry should be pointed out and no one withheld from criticism about it just because they might get their feelings hurt. ::)
--- Quote ---You're mixing and matching here. A 'choice' is choice for opinion.
--- End quote ---
:laugh: That's a good spin. Choice = choice of opinion to have or not have an opinion. Er, no. Nice try though.
--- Quote ---Fact is, same sex marriage is not allowed except in 4 states, one of which is not her state of CA. So she is taking nothing away; it does not exist.
--- End quote ---
Which was pointed out as her ignorance since that's something she believed and said. ;D
--- Quote ---She, like the majority of americans AND THE ADMINISGTRATION offer civil unions.
it helps if you do! ;D
--- End quote ---
Well, if you read earlier posts, a great many states DON'T offer civil unions and indeed rushed to the polls to vote marriage in as man/woman only. So the great many don't even believe that...
And the majority is always...oh wait, no they're not. Mob rule and all that.
--- Quote ---good answer but a major cop out. How much BS is that? It is the policticians who are making and passing the laws, particularly the ones at issue here. Iowa now allows gay marriage; no citizen was allowed to vote on this. The legislature did not even allow a vote to be called to provide for a public forum.
--- End quote ---
I don't like people to vote on whether minorities should have civil rights or not. Why should there even be a vote? People either have civil rights or they don't.
--- Quote ---And you say let the politicians off the hook for their positions? You take a very dangerous view of civics and governament and public policy.
--- End quote ---
Sorry, but I don't "let them off the hook". YOU said that, not me. I'm not happy with Obama's decision, but he was the lesser of two evils IMO. MUCH lesser and I have plenty of reason to believe he was sucking up to Miss CA's conservative religious crowd in his statements - I might be wrong on her political affiliation, but I doubt it.
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: injest on May 05, 2009, 11:18:53 pm ---so people like her? do you even realize how you sound? How is bigotry so wrong for her but not for you?
--- End quote ---
Yes Jess people like her. Bigots. I don't like them much. I'm not the one being bigoted. Miss CA is obstinately devoted to her bigotry - irrationally so.
Now if you can explain why she should be bigoted against gays in that she doesn't believe they deserve to have the same choices as she, please do.
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: injest on May 05, 2009, 11:19:54 pm ---aha!! so this has nothing to do with her comments about gay marriage. You are after her because she is a Christian...got it..
--- End quote ---
A bigoted fundamentalist Christian. That's the big part you left out. And I'm always against religious bigots. They're the worst kind.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version