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Gay Marriage Sinks Miss California's shot at Crown
Marge_Innavera:
--- Quote from: Kelda on May 15, 2009, 09:13:06 am ---It's interesting to me that the Herr, Brokeplex & Inject are saying Perez as evil because he called Carrie a bitch.
Yet, you think its okay to let Savage spew his hate. Never mind all his rants about muslims and gays... what about poor UK Home Secretary Jacqui Smith? I mean, after all, Savage called this good Christian girl Jacqui Smith a witch and a lunatic in the same sentence! :o
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5288279/Michael-Savage-brands-Jacqui-Smith-a-witch-over-Britains-banned-list.html
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This excerpt from the article is specifically dedicated to Savage fans on this forum:
--- Quote ---Savage told listeners: "For this lunatic Jacqui Smith, the Home Secretary of England, to link me up with skinheads who are killing people in Russia, to put me in (the same) league with mass murderers who kill Jews on buses is defamation.
"Moreover I have been endangered by this lunatic. She has painted a target on my back, linking me with people who are in prison for killing people.
"I thought this was a joke or a mistake... How could they put Michael Savage in the same league with mass murderers when I have never avowed violence? She picked an easy target.
"As a result of this I'm going to sue her (Miss Smith). I don't know if I can win, I don't know the law of England. I have seven lawyers working on this right now."
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Hell, why stop at suing England's Home Secretary? Why not sue England?
Clyde-B:
I think Miss California is representing the Trump empire. And as long as she gets publicity, I think he'll be happy.
retropian:
--- Quote from: Marge_Innavera on May 16, 2009, 12:42:03 pm ---I'm aware that there are certain words that provoke hyper-hysterical responses in Current Events; and apparently here as well. I have no problem calling Palin and California's Anti-Gay Spokesperson bitches; nor would I have a problem calling Michael Weiner a bastard or SOB. Let no one waste their time asking for apologies for that from me; they're not going to get one.
One of the things that's been showcased in this and other controversies is how selective most peoples' notions of "free speech" is, at all points of the political spectrum. There's been much weeping, wailing and pontificating about how California's Anti-Gay Spokesperson is being "attacked" for 1) stating her opinion, 2) "standing up for Jesus" and/or 3) standing up for the "family" decency, morality, and nostalgia for the days when America was mythically populated by hard-working Christian heterosexual white people. So she had a right to say what she did. And guess what? People who are offended have exactly the same right to speak up, whether any conservatives here want to be reminded of that or not.
Part of the conundrum in this whole controversy is that at this stage in American history, commenting on same-sex marriage essentially amounts to commenting on a civil rights issue. (No apologies for using that term either.) In that sense, it was probably an inappropriate question to ask in a beauty pageant. But on the other hand, if California's Anti-Gay Spokesperson wanted to respond that gay people are just lovely as long as they stay in their place, then people who find that offensive had bloody well better speak up and they have a right to do that.
One aspect of the desire in some quarters for California's Anti-Gay Spokesperson to resign that hasn't gotten much ink or hot air is that in parleying this incident into a career as a professional right-wing spokesperson she's saddled herself with an image that would get in the way. When Anita Bryant embarked on her homophobic crusade her contracts as a pitchwoman for orange juice was dropped and the wingnuts of that era did much of the same bleating that we're hearing now. But there really wasn't any other choice. People viewing her orange juice commercials wouldn't be thinking of orange juice; they'd be thinking of the whole controversy one way or another. Similarly, that's going to be a stumbling block California's Anti-Gay Spokesperson would face in representing.... well, whatever the hell it is a galactic beauty queen is supposed to represent.
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Yes. What she said! :D Thank you Marge.
injest:
There's been much weeping, wailing and pontificating about how California's Anti-Gay Spokesperson is being "attacked" for 1) stating her opinion, 2) "standing up for Jesus" and/or 3) standing up for the "family" decency, morality, and nostalgia for the days when America was mythically populated by hard-working Christian heterosexual white people. So she had a right to say what she did. And guess what? People who are offended have exactly the same right to speak up, whether any conservatives here want to be reminded of that or not.
post links where ANYONE said she was attacked for 'standing up for Jesus'.
I won't hold my breath...it is yet ANOTHER member reimagining the conversation. Maybe you could go back and actually READ the thread so you won't appear to be uninformed.
I never said "Perez" couldn't throw his lil hissy fit. He had a perfect right to. I have a perfect right to be pissed off that he couldn't let be and instead now has given this woman an entire career and more fame. Who was the winner of the Miss USA contest? can anyone tell me? is she famous because of HER answer or is she famous for Perez's nasty rant?
you can deny it, you can stomp your feet and squeal about how it isn't FAIR to blame Perez...but I do...and nothing will change my mind. If it were not for his self indulgent verbal diarhea, they would not have a pretty young blond to rally the anti gay marriage AROUND.
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: injest on May 17, 2009, 08:02:16 pm ---you can deny it, you can stomp your feet and squeal about how it isn't FAIR to blame Perez...but I do...and nothing will change my mind. If it were not for his self indulgent verbal diarhea, they would not have a pretty young blond to rally the anti gay marriage AROUND.
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yep, as I have said before : there is a sick symbiosis between the Bible thumping right and the radical PC left - they both use each other for publicity, rallying the base, and fundraising.
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