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Tale of a 19th-century abortion provider

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Monika:

--- Quote from: Shasta542 on June 06, 2009, 06:20:07 pm ---In the majority of cases--it is. If not--if it is something beyond her control: rape, life-threatening, etc. -- then abortion should be an option.

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That´s not correct. In many countries birth control is not a choice.

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: Shasta542 on June 06, 2009, 06:07:14 pm ---pro-lifers give the choice to the child to live---

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--- Quote from: Shasta542 on June 06, 2009, 06:17:24 pm ---So you are against innocents having any rights? Or their rights are just less important than someone older and more experienced?

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It's not about depriving fetuses of their rights. It's just the simple reality that a fetus is not able to choose anything whatsoever. If an abortion does not take place, it's not because the fetus "chooses" to live.


--- Quote from: Shasta542 on June 06, 2009, 06:09:05 pm ---In your own eyes--you are right.

In mine---anti-life--the baby's dead afterward.
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Yes. But the term anti-life suggests that abortion-rights supporters are against life in general. They're not. Whereas "anti-choice" is accurate; abortion opponents ARE against choice in general. They don't want individuals to be allowed to choose in this matter.

I like "abortion-rights supporters" and "abortion opponents," myself.

Mikaela:
My God, Crayons - what a terrible tale. Thank you for posting it though.

All that pain, worry, sorrow and medical physical risk during days and weeks because doctors and hospitals are  not trained and /or are afraid to provide the best,less risky and most sensible care for women, thanks to anti-choice, moralistic, misogynistic policies.  It's horrifying. I hope we'll be able to stem that tide over here.

I am amazed at that woman's tenacity and courage in wanting another baby after going through all that. If  it were me, I'd probably have run screaming if my husband tried to come closer than 2 metres from me. Or, more likely, I'd never ever have gone off the pill again.

Shasta542:

--- Quote from: Buffymon on June 06, 2009, 06:20:24 pm ---You were talking about making choices, and that´s what I responded to. An unborn can´t make a choice.
A woman can (if you´ll let her, that is)



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So you are against innocents having any rights.

Monika:

--- Quote from: Shasta542 on June 06, 2009, 06:23:08 pm ---So you are against innocents having any rights.

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ok, this is getting redicilous...


But sure, I´ll answer. Am I against innocents (who ever that it is you include in that little group) having rights? No, not at all.

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