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Clyde-B:
What is defined as "masculine" and "feminine" will depend on the males and females that make up the population you are making your generalizations about.
If you talk about the birds, food gathering and homemaking responsibilities are often shared. If you talk about the bees, the women run the show and men are little more than lazy sperm donors. If you talk about humans, it will depend on where in the world and what period of history you are looking at.
That femininity is a weakness, seems to be a human male conceit. I wouldn't torment a cub in front of a lioness.
milomorris:
--- Quote from: Clyde-B on November 16, 2009, 07:43:13 am ---That femininity is a weakness, seems to be a human male conceit. I wouldn't torment a cub in front of a lioness.
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Not "femininity," Clyde, "effeminacy." The two words are different. See Merriam-Webster:
Main Entry: fem·i·nine
Function: adjective
1: female 1a(1)
2: characteristic of or appropriate or unique to women <feminine beauty> <a feminine perspective>
and
Main Entry: ef·fem·i·nate
Function: adjective
1 : having feminine qualities untypical of a man : not manly in appearance or manner
2 : marked by an unbecoming delicacy or overrefinement <effeminate art> <an effeminate civilization>
So you see, a woman is feminine. A man can be effeminate.
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: Clyde-B on November 16, 2009, 07:43:13 am ---That femininity is a weakness, seems to be a human male conceit. I wouldn't torment a cub in front of a lioness.
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I wouldn't recommend getting between a sow bear and her cubs, either.
Clyde-B:
--- Quote from: milomorris on November 16, 2009, 08:32:06 am ---Not "femininity," Clyde, "effeminacy." The two words are different. See Merriam-Webster:
Main Entry: fem·i·nine
Function: adjective
1: female 1a(1)
2: characteristic of or appropriate or unique to women <feminine beauty> <a feminine perspective>
and
Main Entry: ef·fem·i·nate
Function: adjective
1 : having feminine qualities untypical of a man : not manly in appearance or manner
2 : marked by an unbecoming delicacy or overrefinement <effeminate art> <an effeminate civilization>
So you see, a woman is feminine. A man can be effeminate.
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Femininity regardless of whether it shows up in a man or a woman is considered by some to be a weakness. Women have had to fight for rights as well.
And viewing feminine traits as a weakness is a conceit.
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: Clyde-B on November 16, 2009, 11:07:14 am ---Femininity regardless of whether it shows up in a man or a woman is considered by some to be a weakness. Women have had to fight for rights as well.
And viewing feminine traits as a weakness is a conceit.
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Viewing that there are some traits specific to one sex is a conceit as well.
Women are nurturing? Well, so are men.
Men are brave? Well, so are women.
Women want families? Well, so do men.
Men are strong? Well, so are women.
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