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Here we go again - after the revolution - women pushed back into the kitchen
milomorris:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on March 18, 2011, 02:41:09 pm ---whether the fire departments, police or military, coal mining or what have you, they run into this same sort of intimidation 'gauntlet' they're forced to run by men with teeny brains and apparently even smaller balls.
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Many male institutions come with an element of testing the mettle of their new male members. If women want to join, they should expect the same treatment.
Monika:
--- Quote from: milomorris on March 18, 2011, 03:37:19 pm ---Many male institutions come with an element of testing the mettle of their new male members. If women want to join, they should expect the same treatment.
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why should we? I´d rather get a job based on my qualifications than on my participation in stupid games for men. You can keep those.
milomorris:
--- Quote from: Buffymon on March 18, 2011, 03:58:15 pm --- why should we? I´d rather get a job based on my qualifications than on my participation in stupid games for men. You can keep those.
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The "testing" has nothing to do with getting the job. You've already got the job. The "testing" is done so that the other men know that you will fit in. In Corporate America, hiring managers are often asked to consider a candidate's compatibility with the workgroup or department. A candidate might very well be qualified to do the job, but incompatible with the department for any number of reasons. Those reasons often have to do with the candidates character or personality. The "testing" among men in various institutions is a simplified way of doing that.
So to answer the "why should we?" question: because qualifications are only part of the picture.
Monika:
--- Quote from: milomorris on March 18, 2011, 05:04:58 pm ---The "testing" has nothing to do with getting the job. You've already got the job. The "testing" is done so that the other men know that you will fit in. In Corporate America, hiring managers are often asked to consider a candidate's compatibility with the workgroup or department. A candidate might very well be qualified to do the job, but incompatible with the department for any number of reasons. Those reasons often have to do with the candidates character or personality. The "testing" among men in various institutions is a simplified way of doing that.
So to answer the "why should we?" question: because qualifications are only part of the picture.
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In most work places they can achieve compatability without silly games. So no, I don´t think we should.
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: Buffymon on March 18, 2011, 06:11:15 pm --- In most work places they can achieve compatability without silly games. So no, I don´t think we should.
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Agree. Why don't they see if I fit in because I can do the job, not because I can pass stupid frat boy hell week games. We're adults now, not kids.
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