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On the subject of prostitution
milomorris:
--- Quote from: Mandy21 on January 16, 2012, 01:24:11 pm ---Milo, I'm not sure why you think he was a "scumbag" just for telling the truth as he believed it to be? If he had entered the service, and been caught in an act with another man, wouldn't he have been dishonorably discharged anyway, and just gone right back to Hollywood? The way I see it, he just saved himself a trip. Plus, I don't think a buzz cut would have been a good look on him, despite his gorgeous face.
Jeff, I'm curious -- why do you think of him as "self-destructive"?
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I think all prostitutes are scum. Being proud of it is even more reprehensible. I'm hoping that this particular angle to James Dean's story is just rumor.
x-man:
--- Quote from: milomorris on January 16, 2012, 10:14:56 pm ---I think all prostitutes are scum. Being proud of it is even more reprehensible. I'm hoping that this particular angle to James Dean's story is just rumor.
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Being so narrow-minded is also reprehensible. And rebuking him for wanting to escape the draft? Were you around in those days?
As for this topic site and the film: Thanks, guys, for the great eye-candy. The problems with the film for me were with continuity and bad acting by the main characters. That he was gay, or at least bi-, is not news, and hasn't been for a very long time.
x-man:
--- Quote from: milomorris on January 16, 2012, 10:14:56 pm ---I think all prostitutes are scum. Being proud of it is even more reprehensible.
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I am sorry, but I am so upset by this posting that I must say more.
I have known prostitutes and hustlers in my work with the Ontario Ministry of Correctional Services, other social services, and informally in Toronto bars and clubs over the years. Almost without exception, I have found them to be much like everyone else: wanting some money in their pockets, facing a difficult world, and just trying to do the best they can. If there is a difference, it is that they usually have a more troubled past to deal with, yet seem to be more accepting of other people's foibles and more willing to live and let live. To dismiss them as "scum" is not just narrow-minded, it is unconscionable. These, my friend, are not those who would hurt and oppress you. If you must loose arrows, at least aim them in the tight direction.
Sex-workers are an extremely disadvantaged part of society, and struggle against far more than those who call them names. They battle indifferent social agencies, hostile police, and worst of all, psychopathic crazies who torture and murder them to rid the world of such scum. They are as oppressed as those of us in the LGBT community. WE know what it's like; we, certainly, should be on their side in their struggle.
Why am I the only person to speak out here? Other BetterMostians, and not just LGBT, I implore you to say something.
milomorris:
--- Quote from: x-man on September 26, 2013, 07:54:47 am ---I am sorry, but I am so upset by this posting that I must say more.
I have known prostitutes and hustlers in my work with the Ontario Ministry of Correctional Services, other social services, and informally in Toronto bars and clubs over the years. Almost without exception, I have found them to be much like everyone else: wanting some money in their pockets, facing a difficult world, and just trying to do the best they can. If there is a difference, it is that they usually have a more troubled past to deal with, yet seem to be more accepting of other people's foibles and more willing to live and let live. To dismiss them as "scum" is not just narrow-minded, it is unconscionable. These, my friend, are not those who would hurt and oppress you. If you must loose arrows, at least aim them in the tight direction.
Sex-workers are an extremely disadvantaged part of society, and struggle against far more than those who call them names. They battle indifferent social agencies, hostile police, and worst of all, psychopathic crazies who torture and murder them to rid the world of such scum. They are as oppressed as those of us in the LGBT community. WE know what it's like; we, certainly, should be on their side in their struggle.
Why am I the only person to speak out here? Other BetterMostians, and not just LGBT, I implore you to say something.
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You're relatively new here, so you probably don't realize that I don't care about your emotional state. It's not my problem. You can be as upset as you feel is commensurate with this topic, but your feelings are neither a substitute for an actual rational postion, nor will they have any effect on my position.
You call for others here at Bettermost to say something about my comments here. Those who had something to say did so. If you would like to engage in further debate, then I would encourage you to propose a debatable position. Otherwise, save your "outrage" for someone who actually cares.
Monika:
--- Quote from: milomorris on September 26, 2013, 09:50:59 am ---You're relatively new here, so you probably don't realize that I don't care about your emotional state. It's not my problem. You can be as upset as you feel is commensurate with this topic, but your feelings are neither a substitute for an actual rational postion, nor will they have any effect on my position.
You call for others here at Bettermost to say something about my comments here. Those that had something to say did so. If you would like to engage in further debate, then I would encourage you to propose a debatable position. Otherwise, save your "outrage" for someone who actually cares.
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You do realise that saying that "I think all prostitutes are scums" is not an argument - it´s you expressing your emotions and feelings for something. But it has nothing to do with argumentation or facts. It´s just you feeling like crapping on something.
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