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On the subject of prostitution
milomorris:
--- Quote from: Monika on September 26, 2013, 10:26:13 am ---You do realise that saying that "I think all prostitutes are scums" is not an argument - it´s you expressing your emotions and feelings for something. But it has nothing to do with argumentation or facts. It´s just you feeling like crapping on something.
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OK. Here's a couple of facts: prostitutes are criminals in most places across the world, and they have negative effects on the general health and welfare of society wherever they operate.
Monika:
--- Quote from: milomorris on September 26, 2013, 11:04:43 am ---OK. Here's a couple of facts: prostitutes are criminals in most places across the world, and they have negative effects on the general health and welfare of society wherever they operate.
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You forget the tricks - who are usually men - that buy (mostly) poor women.
I fully support the Swedish law in this regard - here it legal to sell sex but illegal to buy it. We go after the buyers instead of the sellers who in most cases come from broken homes or have gone through other difficulties in their lives.
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: milomorris on September 26, 2013, 09:50:59 am ---You're relatively new here, so you probably don't realize that I don't care about your emotional state. It's not my problem. You can be as upset as you feel is commensurate with this topic, but your feelings are neither a substitute for an actual rational postion, nor will they have any effect on my position.
You call for others here at Bettermost to say something about my comments here. Those who had something to say did so. If you would like to engage in further debate, then I would encourage you to propose a debatable position. Otherwise, save your "outrage" for someone who actually cares.
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I guess name calling (i.e., scum) is a rational position.
I don't much care for hookers and hustlers, either, especially those who hawk their wares in my neighborhood, but I don't delude myself that my dislike of them is rational. Like or dislike, either way, that's an emotional reaction.
It's rational to be concerned about the effect prostitution might have on crime in the neighborhood, or the effect on property values, but I don't fool myself that those are the reasons I don't like hookers and hustlers.
milomorris:
--- Quote from: Monika on September 26, 2013, 11:34:19 am --- You forget the tricks - who are usually men - that buy (mostly) poor women.
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No, I don't forget the customers. They are the ones who create the demand.
The Swedes have their way of dealing with the problem. Fine. Here in the US we go after both the customer, and the provider. Much like the drug trade, both sides need the attention of law enforcement.
milomorris:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on September 26, 2013, 11:52:24 am ---I guess name calling (i.e., scum) is a rational position.
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I never said that it (name-calling) was a rational position. Its not. It is based on an emotional response. The mistake x-man made is that he decided that he wants to argue with it, and has called for others here at Bettermost to join him in this effort. One cannot have an argument over an emotion. One can agree or disagree, but emotional expressions are not debatable points...whether they be my expressions, or anyone else's.
That is the point I'm trying to make.
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