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morrobay:
--- Quote from: gattaca on May 04, 2014, 12:08:49 pm ---It is hard to see if you are not looking for the hands, specifically.
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I saw that, but read it differently, as if Marc is trying to make a half-hearted attempt to stop him, or move his hand away. For one thing, it's Kay's left hand, and he is obviously right-handed ;)
morrobay:
--- Quote from: mariska on May 04, 2014, 05:59:26 pm ---Hi BF, I'm also happy that I can discuss this film now.
I hope more people will watch it, like it and want to discuss it.
After watching a lot of times and hearing the audio comments (director and actors discussed so much about every scene, every detail had a meaning, the lead actors had a lot of input (especially in the sex/love scenes) about what they wanted to show en how they wanted to do that), I think I like the movie even more.
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I'm really looking forward to getting the DVD and hearing them talk about the movie. It's something we all wanted for Brokeback, a detailed discussion with Jake & Heath, but never happened.
morrobay:
ok, another question. In the beginning of the movie, after they both get called into Brandt's office, Marc is leaning against a building smoking and Kay walks up to him rolling a joint. He looks through a big window that seems to be overlooking the pool, then he asks Marc for a light. There's a close up of him lighting the joint and in the next shot, the background is outside with a water sprinkler on. Slight lack of continuity? Maybe that's not the right word, but things definitely changed there.
mariska:
Hi BF, i'm sorry but the audio comments and the deleted scenes are not subtitled. I will try to help you by translating the scenes as good as possible. Aboutthe audio you can ask me if you want to know something specific. And i will watch it again and make notes about discussion that might be interesting fir you. I am really sorry >:(
mariska:
SPOILERS!
BF, you are totally right about the smoke / swimming pool scene. Very strange.
The forest scene: I still think it was the intention of the movie makers to give the impression that Marc was leading Kay's hand in a certain direction, but you are right again about the left/right hand. Probably this scene is shot in parts and from different sides and I think this happens all the time when making movies, without the viewers noticing this.
Good that you did. Ik could see this a thousend times without noticing.
However, of course you could be right and the intention is diffent.
Curious what others will think when they watched the movie.
It's a little detail but in my opinion important how to interpret. It's quite a difference: Kay puts his hand in Marc's pants because Marc "asked" him to or Kay puts his hand in Marc's pants despite Marc tried to push him away.
Then another thing. I was wondering why Marc was back in the training camp. But could it be possible that he was doing that run test at that moment (at the end of the movie)?
One other thing about the scene in Kay's apartment. After Kay told Marc he loved him, they wrapped their arms around each other and kissed. At a certain moment Marc put's his tongue in Kay's mouth and to me it looked like if Max withdrew his head, as if he was shocked a little (like: hey fellow, take it easy). Curious what you think.
About Max: on youtube I found a nice video. Is from a few years ago, but I liked it anyway. You see pieces of several movies and interviews and all comments are in English. When you search for Kino the German film magazin you will find it. From 14.20 it's about babyface max :).
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