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Free Fall - Freier Fall
morrobay:
Great - new conversations! Off to read your thoughts about the last few pages.
morrobay:
--- Quote from: gattaca on May 06, 2014, 05:02:42 pm ---Yes. This is where we see again the selfish side of Marc.. me, not really. that was cold. V.
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I know, I felt so bad for Kay. And then he offers his apartment key to Marc. Granted, Kay would also get something out of it if/when Marc came over since they would make love; still, the gesture says a lot about Kay and his feelings. You don't do something like that, open up your life and your home, if you're just out for sex. It also implies that Kay is prepared to be monogamous with Marc.
morrobay:
--- Quote from: gattaca on May 06, 2014, 05:08:12 pm ---The club scene, while I get it, maybe I'm just too old but they felt a bit out of place. I always pictured the club scenes, and from the ones I've seen, to cater to the younger crowds. Both Marc and Kay, at least for me, seem in the late 20's and a bit more mature to need the "clubbing"... I think this was done for effect to show how far Kay could coax Marc into shifting.. ..perhaps?
Yes, I can see your point about the locker room.. is this birth celebration hurting Kay? But I felt, knowing what we've seen it was more Marc concerned about Marc.. V.
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You're probably right, about clubbing being for younger crowds. I've also read reviews and comments that it was a very stereotypical gay thing to show, idk about that side of it. Also the drug use was brought up as an unnecessary stereotype; but it also shows a lot about the relationship between these 2 specific men. As you said: to see how far Kay could push Marc, both into doing things that he usually didn't do, and what he would do for Kay.
morrobay:
Vincent, I just noticed your signature line - couldn't be more appropriate for this thread. Is it about this movie?
mariska:
--- Quote from: gattaca on May 06, 2014, 05:02:42 pm ---Yes. This is where we see again the selfish side of Marc.. me, not really. that was cold. V.
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Yes, it was kind of cold. But don't forget that Kay is a free man and Marc has a relationship and is a father-to-be. A huge responsibility. I think at this point Marc doesn't want to think about choices, leaving his family is no option yet. He wants everything the way it is now en he feels threatened by kay's question.
Also I think at this time Marc didn't realise how important Kay had become to him. Sometimes you just miss something/somebody when it's gone.
Maybe it was selfish, but understandable. Marc had so much to loose.
After the baby was born, he really wanted to make the best of it with Bettina and baby. It hated the way he handled this with Kay, but maybe this was the only way he could handle it. Telling Kay and himself that it was only an affair.
He had to experience himself that it didn't work anymore with Bettina. And that Kay wasn't just an affair.
Too late, but this is what happens so often in life.
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