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Armie Hammer & Timothée Chalamet find love in Call Me By Your Name (2017)
Front-Ranger:
Saw it, finally and loved it! I especially loved Armie Hammer and Timothée Chalamet. They were just perfect in their individual roles and perfect together. What a wonderful speech the father gave, he nearly, well, did, steal the show for a few minutes. I don't think I would have appreciated the film nearly as much without my Brokeback experience. I would have seen it as another Room With a View, updated for more modern times.
A couple of quibbles. The mom didn't know? Of course she knew. Otherwise, why would she have chosen that passage to translate from German. I'm so done with clueless or missing moms in movies.
The other one (a mild spoiler follows). They're on the bed. Finally, first night in the tent is happening and suddenly, the camera operator LOSES CONTROL of the camera and it slides unsteadily to the right and looks OUT THE WINDOW at a TREE. WTF? Excuse me!!
gattaca:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on January 11, 2018, 09:48:28 pm ---Saw it, finally and loved it! I especially loved Armie Hammer and Timothée Chalamet. They were just perfect in their individual roles and perfect together. What a wonderful speech the father gave, he nearly, well, did, steal the show for a few minutes. I don't think I would have appreciated the film nearly as much without my Brokeback experience. I would have seen it as another Room With a View, updated for more modern times.
A couple of quibbles. The mom didn't know? Of course she knew. Otherwise, why would she have chosen that passage to translate from German. I'm so done with clueless or missing moms in movies.
The other one (a mild spoiler follows). They're on the bed. Finally, first night in the tent is happening and suddenly, the camera operator LOSES CONTROL of the camera and it slides unsteadily to the right and looks OUT THE WINDOW at a TREE. WTF? Excuse me!!
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From the clips I've seen, Elio's mom knew. She knew driving him back in that car scene. How could she not know?
As for the scene you describe, the director discussed that in an interview. The director said he wanted you to focus on what was outside and not intrude but know on purpose. Sometimes it is not what you see that is the most powerful... --> http://www.indiewire.com/2017/12/call-me-by-your-name-sex-scene-luca-guadagnino-1201910219/
V.
southendmd:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on January 11, 2018, 09:48:28 pm ---Saw it, finally and loved it! I especially loved Armie Hammer and Timothée Chalamet. They were just perfect in their individual roles and perfect together. What a wonderful speech the father gave, he nearly, well, did, steal the show for a few minutes. I don't think I would have appreciated the film nearly as much without my Brokeback experience. I would have seen it as another Room With a View, updated for more modern times.
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Yay, glad you loved it too!
--- Quote ---A couple of quibbles. The mom didn't know? Of course she knew. Otherwise, why would she have chosen that passage to translate from German. I'm so done with clueless or missing moms in movies.
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***spoilers***
I have struggled with this too. To me, the question is "know what?" At first viewing, I thought it referred to Elios' relationship with Oliver. Of couse she knew! She's comforting him while driving him home from the station, etc. Far from clueless, she was very gently supportive and knowing.
After my second viewing, I think the "what" is Dad's revelation that he came close to a gay relationship at some point. Did other people hear it this way???
--- Quote ---The other one (a mild spoiler follows). They're on the bed. Finally, first night in the tent is happening and suddenly, the camera operator LOSES CONTROL of the camera and it slides unsteadily to the right and looks OUT THE WINDOW at a TREE. WTF? Excuse me!!
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Agree with Vincent.
southendmd:
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwIJwZRq4YM[/youtube]
From the novel:
Perlman: "Then let me say one more thing. It will clear the air. I may have come close, but I never had what you had. Something always held me back or stood in the way".....
Elio (narrator): We said good night. On my way upstairs I vowed to ask him about his life. We'd all heard about his women when he was young, but I'd never even had an inkling of anything else.
Was my father someone else? And if he was someone else, who was I?
So, is this what "does Mother know?" refer to? Perlman says, "I don't think she does".
southendmd:
Since we're on the subject, I thought I'd share my experience of seeing the film the second time.
Toward the beginning of Perlman's speech are these lines:
"You had a beautiful friendship. Maybe more than a friendship. And I envy you. In my place, most parents would hope the whole thing goes away, or pray that their sons land on their feet soon enough. But I am not such a parent."
There were cheers! And tears.
"I am not such a parent." Just wow.
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