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HerrKaiser:
--- Quote from: Roland on November 01, 2006, 10:32:31 pm --- What would you have had to say, were the analogy to slavery been removed from my last post?
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That you still appear to not make logical sense, when it comes to republics, democracies, and how the state functions.
HerrKaiser:
--- Quote from: injest on November 01, 2006, 10:55:28 pm ---after readin g your post again...seems you are more for a socialist form of government or am I misreading?
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Not really sociailist, perhaps skewing such, but that is true of what we have, and surely moving in that direction. Individual rights are always tempered by the common good, and the Bill of Rights does not abscure that truism. Yes? thanks again.
injest:
--- Quote from: HerrKaiser on November 01, 2006, 11:01:37 pm ---That you still appear to not make logical sense, when it comes to republics, democracies, and how the state functions.
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but it seems to me that Roland is not speaking to how the state functions...but rather HOW they SHOULD function...
HerrKaiser:
--- Quote from: injest on November 02, 2006, 01:00:40 am ---but it seems to me that Roland is not speaking to how the state functions...but rather HOW they SHOULD function...
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yes, and no one SHOULD die of cancer.
I apologize for touching nerves; my perspective is like a chicken wandering into a fox hole, I know. You all are obviously thinking people, but the vastly self-oriented view of 'rights at all cost' approach disappoints my faith in the real agenda at hand. What value is to be achieved or helped? Children? no. Education? No. Health care? No. Housing for the poor? No. etc etc. Rather, substantial windfalls via tax breaks for a very affluent segment of society. Leftwing, liberal groups have screamed and whined about Bush's 'tax breaks for the wealthy' yet the mission to achieve financial benefits via gay "marriage" is no less, if not more, of the same manipulation of funds that should be in the public use. There is a disingenuousness about the campaign and a level of hypocrisy that creeps me out and reeks of 'follow the money' and self enrichment.
thanks for listening.
PS...thanks injest for moderating with good questions/comments.
Front-Ranger:
There's a little card that I carry around in my pocket that consists of the 1st ten amendments of the US constitution...commonly referred to as the Bill of Rights. And they are a bill of rights, not a bill of exclusions. That's why I oppose adding amendments to the Constitutions that exclude people's rights rather than affirm them. Anyway, the one most precious to me is the First Amendment, which reads: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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