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The Question of Time: What Was Life Like in 1963?
moremojo:
--- Quote from: lachlan on March 07, 2007, 07:32:41 am ---No indeed! At the time of the Russian Revolution, during WWI, there were still monastic communities in Russia and even in Canada in which it was openly acknowledged that monks had same-sex liaisons; sometimes as part of a ritual. I was fortunate to have access to records and descriptions of this in Russia and have heard more about thiese "cults" (?) from Orthodox historians who were not condemnatory. I've also seen an English-language anthology in the university library which discusses the phenomenon in a chapter on Russia; I'll try to relocate it this week and I'll post the title if I can.
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In Andrei Tarkovsky's great film Andrey Roublev, the titular character (an historical figure, a monk and icon-painter who flourished in fifteenth-century Russia) reveals his attraction towards a fellow brother of the faith. The fellow monk concedes that "The Devil has tempted me too", implicitly acknowledging a perception of the sinfulness of fulfilling the men's mutual desire, without necessarily condemning the attraction in and of itself.
This scene was very striking when I first saw the film, considering the fact that it was made in Soviet Russia in the 1960's (heady stuff, surely, for that particular country at that particular time).
loneleeb3:
--- Quote from: Shuggy on April 26, 2007, 06:08:04 pm ---So did you get a colour TV after that? :laugh:
Seriously, though, sad story. Hope it's worked out OK.
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Not for many years. My daughter finds that un-believable.
Still working it out but I think I'm going to be ok!
moremojo:
--- Quote from: ineedcrayons on March 01, 2007, 04:20:13 pm ---I'm always a little startled whenever I hear of someone who wasn't poor (or even middle-class) who fought in Vietnam, like Al Gore or John Kerry.
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My uncle is a Vietnam veteran, and came from a lower middle-class family that highly valued education and the hopes of bettering oneself materially. My uncle had a lot of learning disabilities that were poorly understood when he was growing up, and he grew to hate school, dropping out when he was able to do so. The military seemed like one of his better prospects at the time; as it turned out, he joined up right when the war was beginning to escalate. He was a commended soldier, but had a nervous breakdown while overseas, and received an honorable discharge. In many ways, today, he remains a broken man.
loneleeb3:
--- Quote from: moremojo on April 26, 2007, 06:38:29 pm ---My uncle is a Vietnam veteran, and came from a lower middle-class family that highly valued education and the hopes of bettering oneself materially. My uncle had a lot of learning disabilities that were poorly understood when he was growing up, and he grew to hate school, dropping out when he was able to do so. The military seemed like one of his better prospects at the time; as it turned out, he joined up right when the war was beginning to escalate. He was a commended soldier, but had a nervous breakdown while overseas, and received an honorable discharge. In many ways, today, he remains a broken man.
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Same here. I had two uncles who came back forever changed. My one uncle was all american in football. He had scholarships waiting and his highschoool sweetheart. he came back broken and spent most of the 70's thru the 90's in prison. He seemed to be doing good for a while but now he has disappeared again and we can't find him. My other uncle is better. He spent most of the 70's in jail and straightend up and got married and had a child but he has battled the bottle ever since.
They never talked about whatthey saw but we know it was horrific because of the effect the war had on them.
Shuggy:
--- Quote ---Quote from: loneleeb3 on Today at 03:56:49
I remember the moon landing on our old black and white tv in 69.
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So did you get a colour TV after that? :laugh:
--- Quote from: loneleeb3 on April 26, 2007, 06:31:36 pm ---Not for many years. My daughter finds that un-believable.
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But wasn't it wrecked? I'm surprised you survived... ::)
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