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A Ninth Viewing Observation
jpwagoneer1964:
[quote author=dly64 link=topic=7 100% agree
Ennis is trying to somehow smooth over the awkwardness of the situation. He wouldn’t have said, “Jack, stay at the Motel Siesta and we’ll get together later.” And if Jack would have shown up on another day when the girls weren’t there, he would have used another excuse like … “Jack, I gotta work …” (sound familiar?) It’s not the content of what Ennis is saying, it’s what he’s not saying. Ennis rambles on and on about having the girls that weekend. But while he’s talking, he’s watching the truck that’s driving by. Another sign that Jack knows Ennis will never change. Ennis’ fear of being “outed” is too strong.
[/quote]I was thinking up in the mountians. Unfortunatally his fears were not unfounded.
dly64:
--- Quote from: jpwagoneer1964 on August 10, 2006, 08:53:02 pm ---I was thinking up in the mountians. Unfortunatally his fears were not unfounded.
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Tell me more .... are you saying Ennis' fears were not unfounded because of .... what he saw as a child? How he thinks Jack died? Just curious.
jpwagoneer1964:
--- Quote from: dly64 on August 10, 2006, 09:05:48 pm ---Tell me more .... are you saying Ennis' fears were not unfounded because of .... what he saw as a child? How he thinks Jack died? Just curious.
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Because reality was and may still be that WY is not safe place to be out. I think Ennis felt they could never be safe from harm by having the sweet life and it was his way of protecting Jack as well as himself. I think he wished for that life as much as Jack but knew it could never be, but he still treasured what he had with Jack. Matthew Shepard was murdered 14 years after the time frame of the movie in Laramie, WY supposably the most liberal part of the state.
dly64:
--- Quote from: jpwagoneer1964 on August 10, 2006, 09:15:42 pm ---Because reality was and may still be that WY is not safe place to be out. I think Ennis felt they could never be safe from harm by having the sweet life and it was his way of protecting Jack as well as himself. I think he wished for that life as much as Jack but knew it could never be, but he still treasured what he had with Jack.
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I agree with everything exept that Ennis wished for the "sweet life" as much as Jack. In the end, yes. But Ennis was homophobic himself. The idea of loving a man was something he could not ackowledge, let alone accept, until Jack was ultimately gone.
jpwagoneer1964:
--- Quote from: dly64 on August 10, 2006, 09:30:50 pm ---I agree with everything exept that Ennis wished for the "sweet life" as much as Jack. In the end, yes. But Ennis was homophobic himself. The idea of loving a man was something he could not ackowledge, let alone accept, until Jack was ultimately gone.
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I think on some level he did, or at least knew he loved Jack. Otherswise he would have left Brokeback After FNIT. Neither could say the words, but said so many other ways even in their anger.
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