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A Ninth Viewing Observation
welliwont:
--- Quote from: latjoreme on August 13, 2006, 01:05:47 am ---PS, Jane, I just happened to go back and read your recent post with your responses on one of those questionnaires. And I can truthfully say about half of my answers match yours. So:
You are 50 percent right!
(Does that help? ;) ;) ;))
No, really, I think people agree with you more than you might think.
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Hey cool!! that just makes my day! :D :D
Thanks Katherine, and let me just say that you too are 50% right!!! 8) 8) ;D
Cheers!
J
Front-Ranger:
I agree a hunderd percent, Jane, with yr new avatar!! Applause, applause!!
ednbarby:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on August 15, 2006, 12:28:42 am ---I agree a hunderd percent, Jane, with yr new avatar!! Applause, applause!!
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Yep. Now that's some logic one would have to be blind not to see. ;D
Brown Eyes:
I like this discussion condisering Ennis and his "denial" (or lack thereof) on Brokeback vs. life-down-from-the-mountain. I've always felt like we see Ennis evolve throughout the film. And sometimes he back slides and sometimes he seems to be taking steps (even baby steps forward). And sometimes this is a confusing process. The best example is probably the prayer of thanks camping trip where he seems completely relaxed, happy and willing to "submit to the relationship" (a phrase I remember someone once using to describe his demeanor here...) but then whiplash-fast he changes... sits up, puts the rigid hat on, adopts closed-in body language, tells the Earl story, etc. So in a way I feel like we're seeing a step forward and a step back here by Ennis.
But, what I really want to say is that I think there are 3 main phases of Ennis. Brokeback Ennis (free from society), Riverton Ennis (having to deal with society, but Jack is still alive, and available and the comfort that he runs to a few times a year) and then Ennis Post-Jack. I think the Ennis we see following Jack's death is a hugely different character in many ways. His evolution is lightning fast.
dly64:
--- Quote from: atz75 on August 20, 2006, 03:46:49 pm ---But, what I really want to say is that I think there are 3 main phases of Ennis. Brokeback Ennis (free from society), Riverton Ennis (having to deal with society, but Jack is still alive, and available and the comfort that he runs to a few times a year) and then Ennis Post-Jack. I think the Ennis we see following Jack's death is a hugely different character in many ways. His evolution is lightning fast.
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Interesting idea, Amanda. I agree with the division of Ennis' life into three phases. I think the only thing I disagree with is that Ennis’ changes post-Jack are “fast.” There are a few things I see …
1. Ennis acknowledges the reality that he is gay (but he will remain in the “closet”).
2. He loves Jack and always will.
3. He realizes everything he did and what it cost him (i.e. his inability to both “give” of himself and to embrace the one love of his life).
It is because of this that I see Ennis as becoming withdrawn and embittered. The knowledge of what he could have had, but never having the courage to live a life with Jack, IMO, would haunt him until he died.
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