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Dealing With the Brokeback Non-Believers
David:
--- Quote from: Aussie Chris on May 26, 2006, 06:51:46 am --- Please, say something nice quickly. These thoughts are scary! ???
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"Come here, S'Alright"
(Hugs Aussie Chris)
"Everything is going to be ok Cowboy"
:-*
ghent:
--- Quote ---Wow ghent, the way you say this makes me think that you actually agree with this sentiment.
Quick, tell me something you like about BBM and rescue me from this thought!
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Sorry, I stand by everything that I said. Ennis is a completely dysfunctional man in every aspect of his life except for his relationship with his kids. His dysfunctionality pathologizes virtually every aspect of his relationship with Jack. Jack Twist is an incredible character in my opinion, but his relationship with Ennis does expose a co-dependent, enabling side to queer life that gays and lesbians need to permanently leave behind them.
--- Quote ---I couldn't disagree with this more. No, no, no. Please tell me this isn't true! BBM is not Ennis-centric or Jack-centric, it's Ennis-And-Jack-centric. Please, say something nice quickly. These thoughts are scary! ???
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In Annie Proulx's mind, and in the minds of many critics, BBM was Ennic-centric, not Jack and Ennis-centric. Ennis was also the favorite of straight-guy viewers of BBM, as well as many straight women desperate to understand the 'down low' syndrome. This is deeply problematic for urban queers in relationships.
opinionista:
--- Quote from: ghent on May 26, 2006, 04:50:06 pm ---Jack Twist is an incredible character in my opinion, but his relationship with Ennis does expose a co-dependent, enabling side to queer life that gays and lesbians need to permanently leave behind them.
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Co-dependency is not just a part of queer life. It happens to everybody, gay, straight, bi or whatever. It's a human disease.
Aussie Chris:
--- Quote from: ghent on May 26, 2006, 04:50:06 pm ---His dysfunctionality pathologizes virtually every aspect of his relationship with Jack. Jack Twist is an incredible character in my opinion, but his relationship with Ennis does expose a co-dependent, enabling side to queer life that gays and lesbians need to permanently leave behind them.
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Oh, ok then, for one minute there I thought I might have misinterpreted you. :-\
I think we saw two different films, I get nothing of what you say here. C'est la vie...
YaadPyar:
--- Quote from: opinionista on May 26, 2006, 05:55:20 pm ---Co-dependency is not just a part of queer life. It happens to everybody, gay, straight, bi or whatever. It's a human disease.
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Oh yeah - absolutely. No group of like-minded inviduals gets to claim rights to univerally experienced human frailties, or exemption from them. This is the kind of stuff that we work on individually and incrementally, inside our own hearts and lives, not in grand political or philosophical gestures.
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