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Scott6373:
--- Quote from: Sheriff Roland on March 09, 2007, 10:03:23 am ---
C'mon people, move on up to the 20 th century. You'll only be a couple a decades behind the rest a the world.
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That sounds a little harsh. There are valid reasons for why an individual comes down on whatever side of the debate they come down on. I certainly do not champion killing for killing's sake, but with my paricular perspective, I can't say that totally oppose capital punishment.
Sheriff Roland:
--- Quote from: Scott on March 09, 2007, 10:08:13 am ---
That sounds a little harsh. There are valid reasons for why an individual comes down on whatever side of the debate they come down on. I certainly do not champion killing for killing's sake, but with my paricular perspective, I can't say that totally oppose capital punishment.
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Sorry, but that's how I truly feel, and I WAS trying to be sensitive on the subject in statin it that way.
Scott6373:
--- Quote from: Sheriff Roland on March 09, 2007, 10:23:52 am ---Sorry, but that's how I truly feel, and I WAS tryin to be sensitive on the subject in stating it that way.
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Then I take great offense at your unsuccessful attempt at sensitivity. How dare you suggest that because I may hold a different opinion than yours, that I am not "in the 20th century", or infer that I am not as enlightened as you. That's a pompous and elitist attitude.
opinionista:
I think the Capital puinshment only offers a short term solution to a very complex societal problem. Sure, like Del mentioned, it does help to get really dangerous people with no hope of rehabilitation out of circulation. But what about the rests? A lot of killers, very dangerous killers I must add, escape the death penalty by choosing to confess. On the othe hand, society keeps producing criminals and killers. What do we do to stop that, killing them all? It doesn't make sense. I think money spent in building a huge millitary apparatus or in a war, should be used in creating programs to erradicate crime and murder. At least to reduce it.
I don't know this for a fact but a lot of crimes are drug induced. Lots of killers do their killing, their raping under the influence of drugs. And instead of treating drug addiction as disease as other counties do, it is considered a crime. Drug addicts are usually sent to jail. Some are sent to rehabilitation programs but this usually happens when they are first time offenders. Repeated offenders are sent to jail, where they don't get proper treatment. If this problem was address in a different fashion, I think the crime rates will significantly decrease.
louisev:
correct me if I am wrong but didn't the Brandon Teena murder take place in Omaha, Nebraska?
Also, one of the reasons for the repeal of the death penalty in Illinois was due to the exonerating influence of new techniques of DNA analysis which proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that there were innocent men on Death Row. Their gubernatorial pardons, and the repeal of the death penalty has been shown in the light of further advances in forensic analysis that WE ARE EXECUTING THE INNOCENT in America.
Executing the guilty is one question - executing the innocent is state-sanctioned murder, in my opinion, and that is why we need to repeal the death penalty in the USA. And because our justice system is imperfect, and has been demonstrated to be flawed in this supremely dangerous fashion, we cannot impose the final and irreversible penalty on those whom we cannot know are guilty.
As far as whether or not there is a fitting punishment for the crime, the most heinous sex crimes are never brought before a court, nor do the victims raise an accusation against the perpetrator, for these crimes are done between parents and children, cousins, uncles and aunts and nieces and nephews, etc. etc. etc. The most helpful thing we can do is to give support to the victims, and to encourage them to seek justice for themselves in the way that most supports their own healing and recovery. And that is my "non theoretical" opinion. More on this, I will not say.
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