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Didn't any boy cry? This girl certainly did...
injest:
--- Quote from: isabelle on March 08, 2007, 02:05:22 pm ---I just saw "Boys don't cry" for the first time on DVD last night, and am still trying to recover from the shock/pain/immense sorrow. I had heard of the film, as a good film to watch, which dealt with homosexuality, but I didn't read anything (not even the synopsis on the jacket really) before I watched. Even though I thought it was fiction, I was 'living' the bloody thing as I was watching. But oh, when I read at the end what happened to the main characters in real life and realised it was a true story, my blood curled. I froze and felt SO much for Brandon/Teena :'(
Which brings me to this reflection: as a typical European, I oppose capital punishment. I know, it is easy for me, not having come remotely close in real life to anyone who has ever been seriously mugged. But when I read on the screen that one of the culprits had been sentenced to death and was trying to have his sentence commuted, my gut reaction that second was "you can bloody well die, you bastard!". Then 2 seconds later I came round and thought "and what good will it do Brandon/Teena?"
This was like a test for me: I felt so much for this girl/boy, and hated the rapists'/murderers' guts so much, I still quickly found it in myself, in my reasoning, to oppose that bastard's death sentence.
But boy, Texas, what a place, hunh??! And that happened in 1993. Makes me all the more certain that Jack was murdered.
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you have no idea how many people have pooh poohed me when I have expressed fear living here...deep in the heart of the dead woods. Wednesday a young black man was dragged from a SUV because he is dating a white girl...they say he lost his nose, cheek and eye.
serious crayons:
The United States has a higher murder rate than industrialized countries that don't have capital punishment. States with capital punishment have higher murder rates than states without capital punishment.
This correlation doesn't prove that capital punishment causes murder. (It's possible that it's the other way around, that countries and states with higher murder rates institute capital punishment because they see more of a need for it.)
But it does suggest that capital punishment doesn't work, either as a deterrent or as a method for keeping murderers off the streets.
Jess, your post came in while I was writing this. That is absolutely sickening.
injest:
--- Quote from: Scott on March 08, 2007, 06:35:45 pm ---This is a very interesting conversation. If I may, let me put in my .25 cents. .
Back in my early twenties, after my first real long term relationship had ended, I had a tough time getting back into the whole social scene, but eventually I did. One night, after having a relatively enjoybale night with friends a bar in Boston (I live about 30 minutes north, so I drove into town), I left at closing time...yes alone...get your minds outta the gutter, and started to cross the public gardens, because my car was parked on the other side. Half way across, a group of drunk men (I won't say straight because I don't to insult straight people by calling them that), started to follow me.
Eventually they cornered me in a dark part of the park. I was beaten and raped and left there. Here's my question. If I had the ability, after they had finished with me, to get up and kill each one...would that not be capitol punishment? I am no longer defending myself, I am exacting revenge, but...am I entitled?
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no, it would still have been self defence, Scott. you would have been defending your own soul. The damage to your body heals. I don't know (speaking from experience myself) what will heal the soul. Seems to me to be pretty much still tattered...(mine I mean)
injest:
--- Quote from: shakestheground on March 08, 2007, 07:13:49 pm ---Yeah, I couldn't ask that much, I think from your stand point it would be justice served, as rightly so. What bothers me about Capitol Punishment is the finality of it, how it is abused both past and present. Once an innocent person is put to death, you can't bring them back.
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I dont have a problem with the death penalty as a punishment...only with it as it is currently being used. The day a white, well educated, wealthy middle aged man gets the death penalty I may feel differently. It is odd to me that the only people we have executed here in Texas were poor and ill educated....cause I am fairly sure they are not the only ones commiting the crimes...
injest:
--- Quote from: Scott on March 08, 2007, 07:32:40 pm ---To answer the query of this thread. Boys do cry. Trust me.
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