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Who do think you have been in previous lives?

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delalluvia:

--- Quote from: ednbarby on March 14, 2007, 02:05:30 pm ---For what it's worth, Jude, I have dreams with all kinds of people in them, known and unknown, all the time, and I almost always remember them vividly because I'm a very light sleeper so I tend to wake up right after them when they're fresh in my mind.  I've actually dreamed that I've died a couple of times - once by falling off a ledge, and once by plane crash.  My husband was in both dreams and died with me in both.  In both cases, we walked away from our bodies/the airplane lying there, and I said to him, "Are we dead?" and then woke up.  I've always thought these were anxiety dreams about worrying that our marriage was dying.  But one friend thinks they're past-lives dreams.  I dunno.  I have to say that like everything else, I can't believe in it without some kind of proof.  Just not a very faithful person in that sense.  And I haven't seen real proof yet.  Then again, I haven't seen real proof to the contrary, either, so I'll withhold final judgment.

As far as the dreams I have with dozens of people in them who I don't believe I know, my thinking on this is that these are all the people I see every day on the periphery - my subconscious registers them, but not my conscious mind.  So at night, my subconscious does a "core dump" to clear out those memory cells and releases all those people into my dreams.

If I did believe 100% in past lives, I'd believe that my mother and I have been soulmates (platonically, of course) through the ages.  And that I've been a gay man at least once.  I just understand (or think I do, at least) way too much intuitively about what it is to be a man, and what it is to be a man who loves other men, than a woman by all rights should.  I always have - since *way* before Brokeback (but it's probably one of the reasons why these characters break my heart so much).  I would also believe that I've lived in England - maybe even many times over.  I've been an Anglophile for as long as I can remember, but I didn't see England for the first time until I was 30.  I've since been back there twice because each time I go, I believe I am home.  I've only felt a natural pull to a place one other time in my life, and that was when I went to Rhode Island for a wedding once about 15 years ago.  I felt that pull while driving through a small town between Providence and the little seaside town in which our friends got married and could find no logical reason for it, since it was nothing, really, like anywhere I'd lived or been before.


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Extremely interesting. Barb!!  I felt the same way about England that I've not felt anywhere else I've traveled/or lived so far, even in Texas where I've lived my whole life.  Perhaps that will change when I finally make it to Italy?

I'm not sure I'd like to have such vivid dreamtimes.  I'm a heavy sleeper and always have been.  I know I must dream, but I hardly remember the dreams and when/if I do, it's either a nightmare about my current self - I've gotten killed in several dreams, shot or by falling - or else it's a dream like I'm watching a movie - they're almost always about other people or characters I've seen or read about.  So maybe, since I'm more solitary than most, my subconsicous is also doing a nightly 'dump' and clearing out all the memories of people/characters I've been reading/thinking about and concocts stories around them.

It was very interesting to read other people's previous life experiences.  I don't want to subscribe to karmic forces being involved in this phenomenon - such as Kerry's previous life experience where he left his pregnant lover in one life, which set himself up to be left by the same lover in the next life.  Some of the posters here were Nazi victims in a previous life - yet some are gay in this life and victimized yet again.  I'd hate to think that was karmic -   that someone wouldn't be victimized enough in a previous life, so they're set up to be persecuted again in their current incarnation.   :(

If I had previous lives - in colonial England or feudal Japan or more strongly the Graeco-Roman ancient world - I have no negative feelings about them.  i.e. I wasn't the conquered, but possibly one of the conquerors.  I have never had but one vision, no dreams, mostly what I get, when watching movies or TV or reading books is a out-of-nowhere intense feeling of - not deja vu exactly since it is about past lives - but more of that's exactly how it was.

My single vision, was that I was somewhere in ancient Greece or maybe Rome or a Romanized town.  I was female, in a Temple, leaning against a possibly Doric column, looking over far in the distance to an empty plain where an army was gathering to fight.  I could only see a dust cloud, but I knew what it was.  I was scared but also excited because I knew whoever won would not change my life because no one would desecrate the Temple.  Who was I then?  I've no idea.  I only get the feeling that I was young.  I'd be tempted to say I was a priestess or acolyte of the temple, but heck, I could've been a laundress or a slave who swept out the temple.  But whatever I was, I didn't get any sensation of grief, sorrow, regret or fear of being conquered (victimized).

What does it mean?  [shrug]

isabelle:

--- Quote from: Kerry on March 14, 2007, 07:51:23 pm --- For example, even though I feel certain I’ve shared many incarnations with my parents, I’ve had to accept that I may have had all kinds of relationships with them in the past.
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This is interesting. I have the deep feeling that my parents were totally unknown to me until this lifetime, and that I get them as parents this time round as due revenge for bad acts I may have committed against them - even if they were anonymous to me.
My brother I must have known before.
And Barb: I first went to England when I was 14, and felt I was back home. It was an extraordinarily powerful feeling. And I think I said before, I learnt English instinctively, "guessed" it more than learnt it, as if I could remember it.

Kerry:

--- Quote from: delalluvia on March 24, 2007, 05:04:10 pm ---It was very interesting to read other people's previous life experiences.  I don't want to subscribe to karmic forces being involved in this phenomenon - such as Kerry's previous life experience where he left his pregnant lover in one life, which set himself up to be left by the same lover in the next life. 

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I had no idea what to expect from the PLR therapist I was referred to. It was the one and only time I've ever visited one. I'd remotely heard about PLR but didn't know what exactly was involved in a consultation. It was initially a warm, fuzzy, feel-good experience, to start with. Even some of the more disconcerting incarnations, such as when I was pregnant in Paris during the Middle Ages, washed over me in my calm, meditative state, with little or no perceived reaction from me (I had been given the pre-hypnotic suggestion to remember all the incarnations that came through while I was "under"). It wasn't until I was told that I had murdered my present partner in a previous incarnation, that I became distressed. That's probably an understatement. In fact, I became very distressed. So much so, the therapist had to terminate the session. I began crying uncontrollably. Not just the odd tear. I was wailing out loud and there were floods of tears streaming down my face. The therapist initially attempted to continue, and placed kleenex behind my ears, to catch the tears (I was lying on my back and I can remember feeling the tears flowing down past my ears). I was feeling very distressed, to the point of hysteria, but because of the hypnotic state I was in, I didn't know how to wake myself up, or get off the examination table. This extreme reaction was provoked by the therapist describing the scene, in vivid detail, where I murdered my present partner, all those many lifetimes ago. I could literally see myself killing all the other captives and could clearly see the last man standing in line. I could see the look of sheer terror on his face as he looked into my eyes, knowing that I was about to take his life. I was laughing at his distress. I had absolute power over him. I can still remember that feeling to this day. It's not a nice feeling. And at that moment, the therapist told me that this man would one day become my partner in my present incarnation. That's when I snapped. The face of my terrified captive suddenly acquired the features of my beloved in this life. And I still went ahead and murdered him. I didn't know this was going to happen. I hadn't planned to have this experience, when I made my appointment with the PLR therapist.  I guess I was quite ignorant about what to expect. I should warn anyone who is considering having past life regression, that what's revealed may not all be good. For example, I've apparently never been anyone famous or glamorous in any of my previous lives. Never been Cleopatra! Not even been an Egyptian priestess! On the whole, all of my previous lives have been lived under very ordinary circumstances. If anyone feels they may not be able to cope with getting the bad news along with the good, I would seriously counsel against PLR. The experience has the potential for being profoundly traumatising.     

injest:
isn't the whole thing about reincarnation that we are supposed to be learning something and we get a life that will teach us? Maybe the people who were in concentration camps and now are gay are supposed to be learning something (what I do not know) and didn't the last time so they are reliving a similar experience??

louisev:
I have to very strongly second what Kerry has suggested here.

The reason why we have buried these memories is because our subconscious mind is a buffer against things that are too overwhelming for us to deal with.   No one can tell us better what our own souls have counseled us to forget, and it is profoundly irresponsible of "past life regressionists" to recite to us things that we do not remember and provoke things under hypnosis.

Hypnosis is a means of making the conscious will helpless and give direct suggestions to the subconscious mind.  If you surrender your conscious will to some unlicensed, unqualified, and irresponsible person - then what are you really doing?  Seeking truth?  Or setting yourself up as a victim of someone who is after money to facilely and irresponsible dig into your karma and serve up bits on a plate, leaving you devastated.

I have been taught in a legitimate spiritual school, and this school has methods for slowly, safely, and PRIVATELY unfolding our self knowledge by gentle means.  I can describe some of these techniques for those that are interested, and the method is known as Creative Visualization.  And no, it doesnt cost anything.  Unless you remember it yourself, and convince yourself of its veracity, nothing that a hypnotist tells you is really worth a hill of beans.

And if past lives were really all that easy to dig up accurately then everyone should be able to do it at will.  They arent.

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