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Why was the Dozy Embrace so sad?
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: Cameron on April 03, 2007, 11:41:39 pm ---And Jeff, I didn't read the book before I saw it and it took me a few times till I got what was happening. I certainly would love to see that full scene.
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Not to question Ang Lee's judgment, or anything, ::) but I've often wondered about the potential of the flashback to confuse people who were not familiar with the story, since it momentarily confused me, and I've known the story since it was first published in The New Yorker in 1997. It's seemed to me that the cut to the younger Jack was a little abrupt.
Scott6373:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on April 04, 2007, 08:57:26 am ---Not to question Ang Lee's judgment, or anything, ::) but I've often wondered about the potential of the flashback to confuse people who were not familiar with the story, since it momentarily confused me, and I've known the story since it was first published in The New Yorker in 1997. It's seemed to me that the cut to the younger Jack was a little abrupt.
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I had just read the story a week before seeing the film, and I must confess, that I only read it once, so all the nuance wasn't in my soul at that point, but I didn't find it that jarring. I mean, there was a moments confusion, but I soon realized what I was seeing. I think Lee may have intended that sense of incongruity, to heighten the emotional moment.
HerrKaiser:
I thought the cut away to the flashback was superbly executed; perhaps Lee could have used a fade to show time movement backward, but I think that would have been too literal. The thrill of realizing the flashback quickly, and the "I got it" rush was wonderful...and very, very foreshadowing. Had the flashback been less subtle, the clouds of ominous things to come would have been too obvious, imo.
Also, the dozy embrace itself, was, to me, sensationally uplifiting, joyous, moving, emotional, and truly male. The manner in which low-key Ennis dominates the embrace and hums to Jack is one of the most endearing 'love scenes' on film. I rate it up there with the end kiss between Audrey Hepburn and George Peppard in Breakfast at Tiffany's. The richness of their singular being is clear. pure wonder.
HorseLove:
I would love to have heard Ennis sing. I think it would have been even more poignant to hear a song coming from Ennis' mouth to Jack's ear. From a man who hardly says a word, to sing. From a man who hardly shows affection to embrace another man. Then when Jack turns to see him leave, Jacks longing glare would've made more sense. I wonder if it was cut due to movie length?
I would give anything to see the whole scene.
HW
Scott6373:
--- Quote from: HorseLove on April 04, 2007, 02:38:10 pm ---I would love to have heard Ennis sing. I think it would have been even more poignant to hear a song coming from Ennis' mouth to Jack's ear. From a man who hardly says a word, to sing. From a man who hardly shows affection to embrace another man. Then when Jack turns to see him leave, Jacks longing glare would've made more sense. I wonder if it was cut due to movie length?
I would give anything to see the whole scene.
HW
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Well HW...it's not likely, but ya never know...good to see you posting :)
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