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twistedude:
You MUST get a fullscreen version. And I found good ones at Target, after failing at 6 other trys...the fullscreen at Target has a CD in it of someone or other reading the original story..I haven't had time to listen yet...BUT:

Right away, you will see: in the motel scene, Ennis's left hand WITH WEDDING RING, is visable throughout the scene--hey,. that's important! Also, Ennis rubs Jack's arm, every time he moves his hand, because his left hand is resting lightly on Jack's right armn, wbich is around Ennis.--any crumb from Ennis is great...
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This will take 5-6 viewings, unless you have a slower-downer, which I don't. But an ocasional "pause" helps:

Oh, Jack says "Ennis" right before Ennis turns him down, so her faces the canvas floor..

While they are (pretending to have sex):

Jack grabs Ennis's wrist with his hand--you can clearly see the blue cuff on the grabbing hand.  And then., right before Jacks' head collapses on the canvas, he reaches across with his left hand and grabs Ennis's right hand fingers and palm (he's already holding his wrist with his right hand). It's not loving, or affectionate; it's as if he was holding on for dear life...I think THAT's important too. Look at the lower left part of your screen, but not way in the corner--right where you'd expect Jack's hand to be. I NEVER saw this in the theater, or on widescreen...I watched it a lot before I was sure.

In fact, this fullscreen one I have is going to get worn out before i even open the widsescreen...

Aussie Chris:

--- Quote from: julie01 on May 03, 2006, 05:41:20 pm ---Right away, you will see: in the motel scene, Ennis's left hand WITH WEDDING RING, is visable throughout the scene--hey,. that's important! Also, Ennis jiggles-rubs Jack's arm briefly--any crumb from Ennis is great...

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How did you miss the "jiggle-rub" (I prefer "caress" myself) in the theatre Julie?  I missed it on the first viewing but got it on the second, and that's when I saw Ennis completely differently.  It's up there with the little smile he gives Jack in the "you'll frighten the sheep off if you don't pipe down" scene.  It's easy to miss them, but when you do catch them you realise that you had Ennis all wrong in thinking he didn't show his love for Jack.


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This will take 5-6 viewings, unless you have a slower-downer, which I don't. But an ocasional "pause" helps:
Ennis grabs Jack's right hand with his--it's grabby, not real affectionste, but he grabs his hand. And then., right before Jacks' head collapses on the canvas, he reaches across with his left hand and grabs Ennis's right hand (which is already holding his). It's not loving; it's as if they were holding on for dear life...I think THAT's important too. Look at the lower left part of your screen, but not way in the corner--right where you'd expect Jack's hand to be. I NEVER saw this in the theater, or on widescreen...I watched it a lot before I was sure.

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He he, this is fun isn't it?  I can just see topics springing up that refer to "frame 234 of TS2" where you see...  Maybe that might be going a bit far, but after your post here I'm remotivated to slow-mo TS1 (again)!  ;)

twistedude:
..and on my second viewing of the motel scene (on my glorious new DVD), I realized that Ennis's arm is around Jack's arm throughout the scene, while Jack has his right arm all the way around Ennis, from beneath him.   In the theater, I never saw this--I couldn't exactly figure out HOW they were lying; Ennis seemed to be almost on top of Jack, but a little to (our) left of Jack. All I was sure of was that they were both mighty comfortable...

The ' hands' thing was brought to my attention by sfericsf, who has seen the movie 38 times in the theater, and Melinda (let me see if I can get this right: sascha+some more things--she's on BetterMost). Melinda saw it first, ands Eric and I lookedf for it in the theater, but said she was imagining things--but she wasn't. AFter Eric got his DVD, he saw it right away, and said the fullscxreen was better than the widescreen foer such details.  It doesn't "make me melt," because it's not a melting thing--like i said, it's as if he was  holding on for dear life. Which is certainly in keeping with a rough and passionate sex scene. Between two people who've never had sex with eachother before, and one who's never had sex PERIOD.

Aussie Chris:
Actually I just realised you said FULL screen.  Do you really mean regular 4:3 TV, and not 16:9 widescreen?  I have a widescreen TV myself and normally I would never dream of a 4:3 version because the sides would be cut off.  How is it possible that you can see the scenes better, particularly in the motel, is it because it's a larger, fills the TV, and is non-letterboxed?  This would only work for people with 4:3 TVs right?

twistedude:
Aussie: That's the cruddy truth of it! Widescreen is ALWAY S recommended for new movies--especially American ones---because that's the way they're shot. To see some details, though, you need fullscreen, because--you know how they're always talking about the sides being cut off in fuillscreen? Well, the bottom is cut off in widesacreen! And THAT'S where the wedding ring is. to clarify that---Jack has an arm around Ennis, but Ennis has his arm and hand over Jack's arm, throughout the scene, his hand resting lightly on Jack's arm, and his wedding ring is clearly visable. His left hand is resting on Jack's arm, and every tinme he moves it, he caresses Jack's arm.

Back to the hands. watched it several more times (I have no slow-mo on my good screen--maybe I'll switch to the other screen), and--it's the blue-cuffed hand that grabs Ennis' right   wrist, AND Jack's--obviously--left hand that comes across and grabs the other end of Ennis's hand at the end. So, not quite what I hoped for, but nice anyway.

Hey: read my story, "Good Old Boy." No sex at all...sorry about that.

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