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FULLSCREEN IMPARATIVE!
twistedude:
...so you can see Ennis's wedding ring throughout the motel scene, and see that, while Jack has an arm around Ennis, Ennis's left arm is resting on Jack's arm throughout, and every time he moves his left hand he caresses Jack's arm.
In tent scene one--slo-mo would help, but I don't have it on my good (Toshiba): Jack grabs Ennis's wrist (it's the blue-cuffed hand that grabs..sorry about that, too) half way through the simulated sex, and just before his head collapses on the canvas, he brings his other (left) hand across and grabs the fingers and palm of Ennis's hand as well...
And anyone who can't hear Jack say "Ennis" when Ennis first turns him over, rather roughly, is deaf...that's on the soundtrack, so you don't need fullscreen!
That's FULLSCREEN, not widescreen..I haven't even looked at my widesacreen yet!
Aussie Chris:
--- Quote from: julie01 on May 04, 2006, 01:22:33 pm ---Aussie: That's the cruddy truth of it! Widescreen is ALWAY S recommended for new movies--especially American ones---because that's the way they're shot. To see some details, though, you need fullscreen, because--you know how they're always talking about the sides being cut off in fuillscreen? Well, the bottom is cut off in widesacreen! And THAT'S where the wedding ring is. to clarify that---Jack has an arm around Ennis, but Ennis has an arm over Jack's arm, throughout the scene, and his wedding ring is clearly visable. His left hand is resting on Jack's arm, and every tinme he moves it, he caresses Jack's arm.
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Just noticed a thread on IMDB talking about this: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388795/board/nest/42557541, which contains a description of the major differences and some picture examples:
Wide version fireworks: http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/527/bbmwidefireworks0mm.jpg
Full version fireworks: http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/4840/bbmfullfireworks8ec.jpg
I thought this from CaseyCornelius was interesting, referring to the above shots:
by - CaseyCornelius 4 hours ago (Thu May 4 2006 16:17:13 ) Ignore this User | Report Abuse
UPDATED Thu May 4 2006 16:39:49
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stygomez and others:
Actually, the wide-screen version exactly duplicates the 1.85 ratio format which was shown in the theaters and was Ang Lee's and Rodrigo Prieto's 'vision' for the film. As in most film photography today they chose to matte a full screen image, choosing which portions of the image to keep in order to make artistic sense. The Full screen version of Brokeback 'opens up' this masking or matte-ing in order to avoid the pan-and-scan cropping of a normal wide-screen image for most of our televisions which show full screen in 1.33 ratio format. It also includes some significant cropping of the sides of the frame. So it is a total distortion of the film-makers' intents. The Full screen edition IN NO WAY corresponds to the original artistic vision of the film-makers, but is a commercially-motivated attempt to provide a 'palatable' image for normal TV screen viewers uninterested in artistic niceties .
That being said, however, the Full Screen image reveals more content [albeit not intended or even desired by Ang Lee] which IS interesting to those fascinated by the film, including 'fuller views' of certain scenes, but making nonsense of the artistry of the frame composition. The Full Frame shot of the Fireworks scene in this thread is a case in point - the long line of on-lookers at the bottom is distracting, intrusive, and takes away from the magnificence of the 'pose' by Ennis towering over Alma as the shot is seen in the wide-screen 'original'. Some have suggested that rabid Broke-a-holics might want to own both versions, as they are, in very real, obvious ways, completely different visual experiences. But, I will always take the Wide-screen version as sacrosanct.
There is an extensive number of pages detailing the comparisons of the Full Screen and Wide-screen versions and the artistic inadequacy of the former on the Dave Cullen Forum site: http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=4716.msg154880#msg154880
korgriff:
:o OMG julie01 I knew about Jack grabbing Ennis' wrist but I didnt know about the left hand thing!!!! And I didnt know about the "Ennis"!! OMG!! Now I have to watch the movie again to see!!!
THANKS!!
twistedude:
Only sfericsf describes the sceres which interest me--I couldn't care less about a scene which imitates a cigarette add (I smoked for 52 years!). However the first tent scene and the motel scene--I cannot IMAGINE why Ang Lee would cut the hands from the tent scene, or Ennis's hand with his wedding ring from the motel scene...they are so important.
WHY am I always arguing with CaseyCarnelius--who, in the firstr place,. is brialliant, and in the second--you can't win, because everyone believes him? The activity of Jack's hands in the first tend scene mades such a great side comment on the main action of the sex--I can't imagine why a man from the part of the world that believes in the "travelling focus" of a painting, instead of the single, steady focus, as in the west--would remove them from the viewer's eyes.
Likewise, in the motel scene, Ennis's ringed hand anchors the whole action. It both holds ands caresses Jack's arm, and at the same time stands as a reminder of Ennis's resposnsibilities--whether he chooses to accept them, whether he should or not.
sparkle_motion:
He says Ennis? I've never heard it and this is the first time I've ever seen it mentioned. Anyone else notice it?
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