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Dealing with young Kids & teenagers (A thread not just for parents!)
David In Indy:
And PLEASE don't ever make children suck on soap. That was one of the cruelest things parents could do to their children. It borders on child abuse in my opinion. If a child cusses, a time out in the corner is probably sufficient, don't you think? There's really no need to stick a bar of soap in their mouth or rub liquid soap in it, and then make them sit there for 15 or 20 minutes and taste the soap in their mouths without even one drink of water. I'll never forget that as long as I live. :P
I'm hoping these terrible traditions from 30 and 40 years ago are finally gone for good. I would have gladly taken several swats from my daddy's belt rather than taste soap for 20 minutes. But neither act accomplishes anything good, does it? :'(
isabelle:
Wow, David, so you were one of those kids, hunh? I'd heard that some American parents did that to their kids, but I wasn't sure whether to believe it. Never heard of that being done in Europe, whereas for instance when I was a kid (40 to 25 years ago), it was common for parents to slap their kids (on the legs/ bottom/ face)... and my parents even had a whip!
I have heard that there is a law in the uk against hitting your own kids. And I also have a cousin who often got beaten up (there's no other word) by his dad and he thinks now that it wasn't such a bad thing to do; and a friend whose dad never touched him and now he wishes his dad had (thinks dad was too soft!!). Whereas I got a few slappings (with red marks on my legs), and am not sure I have forgiven my parents yet. Just goes to show...
Katherine: I agree that your kids (like anyone else) can definitely bring out the worst in you. But it will never be seen as an excuse, because as a parent you are supposed to be in control of yourself and everything else, and that is SO unfair for people to think so, because parents are human beings like everybody else. And those of you who'd be tempted to say: "yeah well, you shouldn't have kids then... I don't have any, because I know better"; I bet you're still happy that some so called 'useless' people had kids and gave you someone to love, hey ;)?
Kelda:
And what do You all think of physical discipline?
There has been some talk about this in other theads.
--- Quote from: David on July 29, 2007, 03:55:03 am ---I don't have any kids. I have a dog though, and occasionally he acts like a child. He does naughty things and every once in awhile I'm tempted to swat his ass with a roll of newspaper. But I don't do it. I've never hit my dog thus far. Yell at him, yes. Hit him, no. I believe hitting and paddling accomplish NOTHING.
Back when I was a child, it was a common custom to hit children, and I got my fair share of swattings. My mother used to wash my mouth out with soap too if I was caught lying or saying a swear word. When I was around 10, they developed liquid hand soap and my mother used that on me. She'd rub the roof of my mouth with the soap so I couldn't get it out. That was a strange custom wasn't it? And it didn't work either. I still swear like a drunken sailor.
As long as a child KNOWS his or her parent is truly displeased with him or her, he or she will remember this. A child naturally wants to please his or her parents. The show of displeasure is sufficient punishment in my opinion. :)
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--- Quote from: David on July 29, 2007, 07:33:04 pm ---And PLEASE don't ever make children suck on soap. That was one of the cruelest things parents could do to their children. It borders on child abuse in my opinion. If a child cusses, a time out in the corner is probably sufficient, don't you think? There's really no need to stick a bar of soap in their mouth or rub liquid soap in it, and then make them sit there for 15 or 20 minutes and taste the soap in their mouths without even one drink of water. I'll never forget that as long as I live. :P
I'm hoping these terrible traditions from 30 and 40 years ago are finally gone for good. I would have gladly taken several swats from my daddy's belt rather than taste soap for 20 minutes. But neither act accomplishes anything good, does it? :'(
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--- Quote from: isabelle on July 29, 2007, 08:16:54 pm ---Wow, David, so you were one of those kids, hunh? I'd heard that some American parents did that to their kids, but I wasn't sure whether to believe it. Never heard of that being done in Europe, whereas for instance when I was a kid (40 to 25 years ago), it was common for parents to slap their kids (on the legs/ bottom/ face)... and my parents even had a whip!
I have heard that there is a law in the uk against hitting your own kids. And I also have a cousin who often got beaten up (there's no other word) by his dad and he thinks now that it wasn't such a bad thing to do; and a friend whose dad never touched him and now he wishes his dad had (thinks dad was too soft!!). Whereas I got a few slappings (with red marks on my legs), and am not sure I have forgiven my parents yet. Just goes to show...
Katherine: I agree that your kids (like anyone else) can definitely bring out the worst in you. But it will never be seen as an excuse, because as a parent you are supposed to be in control of yourself and everything else, and that is SO unfair for people to think so, because parents are human beings like everybody else. And those of you who'd be tempted to say: "yeah well, you shouldn't have kids then... I don't have any, because I know better"; I bet you're still happy that some so called 'useless' people had kids and gave you someone to love, hey ;)?
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I think it can & does work - but there is of course a time place and situation for it.
It certainly never did me any harm although by the time I was about 9 my Mum had stopped with the slap on the bum to some type of other punichment - no tv, no pudding etc etc. That was more effective for me at that age. Although I was a faily good child even if I do say so myself!
Kerry:
When I went to school in the 50s and 60s, it was common practice in Australia for the male teachers to carry a cane with them wherever they went. This was a menacing looking length of thin bamboo-like cane (much thinner than a walking stick), about 90cm (3ft) long. If they came across a school boy misbehaving, they would order him to stretch out his arm with his palm facing upward, and give him "six of the best" across his palm with the cane. It stung like the billy-oh but I rarely got the cane 'cause I was such a little goodie-two-shoes when I was at school! ;) :D
David In Indy:
--- Quote from: Kerry on July 30, 2007, 09:53:43 am ---When I went to school in the 50s and 60s, it was common practice in Australia for the male teachers to carry a cane with them wherever they went. This was a menacing looking length of thin bamboo-like cane (much thinner than a walking stick), about 90cm (3ft) long. If they came across a school boy misbehaving, they would order him to stretch out his arm with his palm facing upward, and give him "six of the best" across his palm with the cane. It stung like the billy-oh but I rarely got the cane 'cause I was such a little goodie-two-shoes when I was at school! ;) :D
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The nuns carried a similar cane back in Catholic school. Actually it was one of those pointing sticks, but they found other uses for it besides pointing at the alphabet letters above the chalkboard. The nuns and priests would give us one firm swat over the tops of our hands if we were caught talking, daydreaming, etc. It hurt like white fire. Oh and those pointed nun's shoes were another near lethal weapon. A swift kick on the ankle with one of those would get anyone's attention. OUCH!! >:(
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