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What do you think of Spanking?
Scott6373:
I am totally in favor of "spanking"...both for unruly children and adults...in fact, there should be spanking stations located in every town...when someone get's out of line, a professional spanker would take care of that little issue right then and there.
louisev:
Corporal punishment is not for the child, it's for the parent. It has been demonstrated conclusively that P.E.T. (Parent-effectiveness training, or the "logical consequences" method of child discipline) is effective. The problem with using a logical consequences model is that it requires maturity and persistence on the part of a parent. Hitting a kid is easy, particularly when you are angry and want to. And that is precisely when it is the worst thing to do.
P.E.T. is a behavior model in which children are rewarded for positive behavior with desirable activities (usually with the parent) and punished with withdrawal of rewards. Like "clean up your room" gets an hour of a favorite show and a trip to the ice cream shop after dinner. No clean up room, no ice cream, no tv. It took about 2 1/2 weeks of using a chart with check-off points on it for desired behavior (clean up room, do homework, go to bed on time) before my stepson, who did have behavioral problems related to his mother's sudden death and two years of ensuing court battles, was a model child.
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: louise van hine on August 07, 2007, 09:39:37 am ---Corporal punishment is not for the child, it's for the parent. It has been demonstrated conclusively that P.E.T. (Parent-effectiveness training, or the "logical consequences" method of child discipline) is effective. The problem with using a logical consequences model is that it requires maturity and persistence on the part of a parent. Hitting a kid is easy, particularly when you are angry and want to. And that is precisely when it is the worst thing to do.
P.E.T. is a behavior model in which children are rewarded for positive behavior with desirable activities (usually with the parent) and punished with withdrawal of rewards. Like "clean up your room" gets an hour of a favorite show and a trip to the ice cream shop after dinner. No clean up room, no ice cream, no tv. It took about 2 1/2 weeks of using a chart with check-off points on it for desired behavior (clean up room, do homework, go to bed on time) before my stepson, who did have behavioral problems related to his mother's sudden death and two years of ensuing court battles, was a model child.
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If you'll excuse me, this method assumes a middle income family and also that
1) the child has a close relationship with the parents
2) that the child has 'little privileges' to begin with
In families such as I was raised, we kids cleaned up our rooms period. That was one of the many labors performed around the house for the privilege of living with our parents gratis. This wasn't ever an option.
Dessert taken away as a punishment? What dessert? A dessert was a treat we got maybe once or twice a year.
Favorite TV shows? We had one TV and our parents controlled the set from sunup to sundown. We had to ask to even watch a show to begin with.
Outings with the family? I guess if you call accompanying your parents shopping for groceries or hardware an 'outing'. We didn't do movies except rarely, and only when my parents wanted/could afford to go. If they didn't, we didn't go and we rarely ever went. I think I could count on the fingers of one hand the times we went to the movies as a family and still have fingers left over.
We kids did kid things, parents did grown up things. The only things we did together was take vacations every summer.
Think of Jack or Ennis as children growing up. What privileges did they have to lose?
moremojo:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on August 07, 2007, 08:58:59 pm ---If you'll excuse me, this method assumes a middle income family and also that
1) the child has a close relationship with the parents
2) that the child has 'little privileges' to begin with
In families such as I was raised, we kids cleaned up our rooms period. That was one of the many labors performed around the house for the privilege of living with our parents gratis. This wasn't ever an option.
Dessert taken away as a punishment? What dessert? A dessert was a treat we got maybe once or twice a year.
Favorite TV shows? We had one TV and our parents controlled the set from sunup to sundown. We had to ask to even watch a show to begin with.
Outings with the family? I guess if you call accompanying your parents shopping for groceries or hardware an 'outing'. We didn't do movies except rarely, and only when my parents wanted/could afford to go. If they didn't, we didn't go and we rarely ever went. I think I could count on the fingers of one hand the times we went to the movies as a family and still have fingers left over.
We kids did kid things, parents did grown up things. The only things we did together was take vacations every summer.
Think of Jack or Ennis as children growing up. What privileges did they have to lose?
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Shit, that's hard. :-\
ifyoucantfixit:
--- Quote from: Scott on August 07, 2007, 09:04:24 am ---I am totally in favor of "spanking"...both for unruly children and adults...in fact, there should be spanking stations located in every town...when someone get's out of line, a professional spanker would take care of that little issue right then and there.
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You are so silly/!!!!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Bend over........you can be first
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